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Prospects: Monday, 31 March, 2008

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  • 31 Mar 08, 11:40 AM

Simon Enright is today's programme producer - here's his early email to the team.

Good Morning,

It seems from briefings out of Zimbabwe that Mugabe has not just lost but been thrashed in the election - but will he steal it? Can he? Where is power being brokered. We should try and answer all these questions tonight. Who do we need to speak too - and where should we focus our discussion in the studio.

Richard Watson and Meirion Jones have a strong tale of how one former Jihadi has repented. He is now trying to "convert" back many of those who he previously radicalised.

But what else should we do today?

Simon

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If it's any help on the "Pregnant Man" story then as an experienced serious commentator in this field I have produced the following in-depth Podcast on the background and issues.

I hope that's helpful

Christine Burns

  • 2.
  • At 01:44 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • mark spurgeon wrote:

Rumours have spread saying many supporters of Zanu PF, living in Canada have flown back home to vote. Is this true? But more importantly, is anyone remembering the votes of the enourmous number of Zimbabweans that fled Mugabes tyranny? Also; Who are the people that count the votes? Are they friends of Capt Bob?,do they fear for thereown or there familes safety if they find that Mugabes lost? Remember Gukuruhundi.

  • 3.
  • At 01:58 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • Stephen Savva wrote:

I would like to know how much recent sanctions have actually contributed to the financial situation in Zimbabwe as it seems that the hyper inflation may be the primary factor in a Mugabe election loss.

  • 4.
  • At 02:27 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • tony wrote:


Mugabe is no angel, however 麻豆官网首页入口 reporting on the issues in Zimbabwe bears more resemblance to the ex-USSR daily Pravda than with balanced reporting.

  • 5.
  • At 03:11 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • neil robertson wrote:

  • 6.
  • At 03:28 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • neil robertson wrote:

you could also try to get Prof Brian
Raftopolous ... or even Professor Terry Ranger (Emeritus Professor at St Anthony's College Oxford)
to read the runes from Zimbabwe; also
Judith Todd saw through Mugabe early on and also has links to the Mbekis
from her days running ANC safe houses ... she has been critical,
and also very, very brave ......

And on what the UK should do: Lord David Steel is 70 today and knows
Zimbabwe - as indeed does Malcolm
Rifkind ....

  • 7.
  • At 03:59 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • Bill Bradbury wrote:

What's the betting it ends up with street fighting as happened in Kenya as both sides claim victory, with the delay by Mugabe being because he is either manufacturing more pre-cast votes or burning those of the opposition?

He will have his soldiers on the street before long. I just feel sorry for those intimidated by Mugabe's regime, but it is easy to pontificate from a safe distance. History tends to show that it is usually people power and revolution that overturns regimes, Hitler being the exception.

  • 8.
  • At 04:11 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • jegmeister wrote:

It's disappointing to still see one or two Mugabe apologists blaming everyone but Mugabe for the state that Zimbabwe is in.

"It's all a Western plot". The thing that these people always ignore is that the country's economy ran well for years - and would have continued to do so if Mugabe's power had not been threatened.

If he had been allowed to stay in power, he would have not taken any of the steps which have destroyed the economy. He wouldn't need to. The evil nature of this man is evidenced by the way he would rather see the country ruined than let anyone else take control. His vindictiveness and viciousness knows no bounds.

  • 9.
  • At 05:09 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • bob wrote:

How about Stephen Savva and Neil Robertson head to head in the studio.
Maybe with Mark Spurgeon taking the nation's pulse on the streets?

  • 10.
  • At 05:23 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • wrote:

Still no showing of the footage of tibetan protesters being beaten by the New York Cops at the gates of the U.N.

I have written twice asking why this is not news, No reply as yet, thought i would try here.

If you never reply to any mails i send what is my next option, should i turn up and doorstep you all at the bbc. Is that what it will take to get a simple answer to a simple question

Here is the link to the footage


  • 11.
  • At 05:28 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • DaveH wrote:

In 1979, I and a group of Young Tories (okay, I was young!) barracked Lord Carrington as at the Tory conference as he spouted about Zimbabwe and its likely first black President, Mugabe being a shining beacon of democracy in Africa etc. We maintained that what lay just below Mugabe's nose was a clue to a forthcoming "Marxist dictatorship". At the same time, Peter Hain and the lefties were shouting for Mugabe at every opportunity.

How about getting those two on and asking about their own lack of judgement and in Hain's case, ask him why his current regular TV appearances condemning Mugabe are just a bit two-faced.

  • 12.
  • At 05:47 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • Stephen Savva wrote:

Ha! Sorry I am no Mugabe apologist. I offered no opinion in my post. I am certainly no expert on this matter. In any case I thought this article regarded reporting of the news, not a an opinion piece.

The reason I queried the effect of the sanctions is that I have read that the opposition has very little influence on the media in Zimbabwe. Therefore it would be logical to think that if the people have voted against Mugabe and his party despite this then the recent hyper-inflation must be a major factor in the results.

This raises questions over outside influence on a countries internal affairs.

  • 13.
  • At 05:50 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • wrote:

What else? The British euphemism.

AN 鈥淯NACCEPTABLY POOR TRAVEL EXPERIENCE鈥.

The flight was cancelled, they lost my bags
But it wasn鈥檛 poor practice or negligence.
All that happened in Heathrow鈥檚 terminal 5
Was 鈥渁n unacceptably poor travel experience.鈥

At last in my seat on a much later flight
I鈥檇 up-graded and wildly spared no expense
The captain announced - as the last engine died
It was an unacceptably poor travel experience.

I鈥檝e led a good life so had cause to expect
At my death things would not be at variance.
But the BAA signage saying 鈥淗eaven this way鈥
Led to Hell and an unacceptably poor travel experience.


  • 14.
  • At 07:05 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • wrote:

JOHN GALT (currently post 10)

Thanks for the link John

I watched in sadness.
You have to take account of the unspoken/unwritten pact between politics and media; "living inside the lie" as Havel termed it.

  • 15.
  • At 07:23 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • zandi wrote:

Mugabe must go no doubt but is Twsangirayi the right person to take over? He is clearly cut from the same cloth as Bob as was demonstrated by the happenings in his own party with allegations from party leadership that he had dictatorial characteristics refusing to take advise from his peers prefering to run MDC like his own personal business.Tswangirayi clearly has the backing and support of the west but at what cost? What is he willing to give in return? The land that has been given to the black people? Does he think those people occupying the land will hand it back when he says so? I also think just like the situ in Kenya the reckless reporting by the 麻豆官网首页入口 and Sky news about his so called victory is nothing short of propaganda and this in its self is will be causing a lot of unnecessary alarm! Couldnt they wait till the results are announced before declaring him a winner?

  • 16.
  • At 07:46 PM on 31 Mar 2008,
  • neil robertson wrote:

Further to post #9 they don't have enough free tractors to bribe us!

  • 17.
  • At 10:19 AM on 01 Apr 2008,
  • bernard chelanga wrote:

there is no doubt Zimbabwe will go the Kenyan way. this is evidenced in the delay of results. it may require solid intervention the way Kofi Annan did for Kenya. am certain Mugabe is going to rig the election, look how come his cronies play the roles of both returning and presiding officers.

  • 18.
  • At 09:20 PM on 01 Apr 2008,
  • John Galt wrote:

Barrie,

The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction we give it.

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