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On the road with Gordon

Nick Robinson | 17:34 UK time, Tuesday, 7 February 2006

Just back from travelling with "Britain's next prime minister" on tour - that's how most people see him and that's how he's beginning to behave.

Speaking to me on the way back from a trip to Birmingham tonight, Gordon Brown calls for tougher laws to deport and exclude extreme Muslim clerics; new laws to ban the glorification of terror, and is hinting that if he moves to Number 10 he wants to revisit the laws on detaining suspects for up to 90 days.

What's more, he says he backs education reform now and in the next Parliament. I think I know what he's saying. Watch for yourself!


Or if you prefer to read it, here are some highlights:

On terror
He said he understood the anger and fury felt by people over the extremist demonstrations against cartoons of the prophet Mohammed, accusing the placard-waving fanatics of "abusing their citizenship of Britain". When I asked him about suggestions that he was against tougher anti-terror laws, such as ID cards, the chancellor said: "They have certainly got me wrong because I want the toughest of security in defence of people's liberties, in defence of our country's freedoms, in defence of the safety of individuals in this country."

"People" he added "are worried about the social cohesion of our country...We need to be more British, we need to integrate our society more closely and defend what are the values that we hold in common."

On reform
"My message is reform is going to continue. This is not the last education reform there will be. There are going to be more education reforms as well. And there reform in education is very much part of not just what we will do in this Parliament but what we will do in the next Parliament and people should support it."

On Cameron
"The problem as I see it is, we have someone who is saying I'm Conservative to the core one day, I'm the inheritor of New Labour the next day, I'm a Liberal the next day. I think people are going to need answers about policies and about programmes and about big questions for the future of our country and not a glib PR exercise."

So, is this Mr Brown shedding his inhibitions and coming clean that he's prepping to be premier? Oh no, Mr Brown insisted with a smile, he was just seeking "to be a better chancellor, a better minister".

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