Helping the BNP?
Should the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú News website link to the BNP's online pages? In doing so are we driving traffic to the party's "ignorant, hateful and cowardly" content, as one complainant insists?
The disclaimer that "the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is not responsible for external sites" cuts little ice: "I am not asking the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú to take responsibility for the racist content of this particular website, but you must take responsibility for linking to this vile content."
The easy thing to do would be to adopt an all-or-nothing policy. After all, if people really want to find their way to this kind of material then Google is only a click away. Why help the process? A blanket ban would relieve us of the Wisdom of Solomon judgement calls.
So, for that matter, would a policy of linking to anything and everything and that would certainly chime with web audiences who see editorialising as censorship.
In reality we make decisions on which sites to link to on a case-by-case basis and we consider them carefully, in relation to the news agenda and the context around each story. In general, we link to sites where there is sufficient editorial justification. We take into account the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú guidelines on harm and offence and the law relating to such matters as defamation or incitement to racial hatred.
And as far as the BNP is concerned we have not in general linked to their site but, in the interests of impartiality, we have done so during election periods. Sure, we drive traffic to the site but click-throughs don't necessarily convert to support for the party. In fact, the opposite may be true.
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Just as there's an extra warning on tv prior to programmes likely to offend, you could add an extra intermediate page/popup warning about likely offence with a "do you wish to continue" question. Could even be automated with certain key words.
I did link to a BNP-supporting site on my World Update Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú blog, re-emphasising the disclaimer. Most of the readers of my blog are in the US and I decided they needed to see what was out there. Americans are used to the farthest reaches of free speech.
The material is so repellent, I don't think anyone who had not already made up their mind would be recruited or persuaded by it.
There is one minor consequence of linking to any site - its Google "PageRank" will be increased. Links from popular, respected sites such as the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú are worth a lot of "PageRank".
This would increase the chance of Google searches putting the BNP at the top of the list - I guess most of us would prefere an anti-BNP site to be there.
Having said that, if you link to any political party, I think you have to link to them all.
It's the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú's job to give UK citizens the information they need to exercise their democratic rights and to hold their representatives to account. To do that, they need to know what the BNP stand for, so we should provide the link. It's not for us to judge whether we like the BNP, just to ensure we're not breaking any laws in providing the link. If we're not, let the public decide for themselves.
Recent vox pops of people who voted BNP in the local elections reinforced in my mind that there's a real danger that the big parties and the media, by trying to ignore the BNP, give them an anti-establishment, underdog feel which is probably attractive to some voters who would be repelled if they saw the BNP's views properly discussed and debated.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú shouldn't shy away from debate and discussion and should be very wary of ignoring opinions just because it doesn't agree with them.
In a democracy it is reasonable that the establishment broadcaster should treat all political parties legally seeking election with impartiality. If the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú failed to link to the BNP, would it also feel that it shouldn't link to UKIP or the Green Party because of their far right and far left policies?
However, on a day to day basis the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú News pages often fail to link to both sides of the story. For example today's Brian Haw story links to the Metropolitan Police and the House of Commons but fails to link to the protestor's side of the story at This ongoing failure to connect with both sides of the political debate continually erodes trust in the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú amongst a wide sector of the population, particularly those who feel that the democratic systems in this country have let them down.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú needs to reflect the diversity of it's audience, even if that is uncomfortable for the political establishment.
>> There is one minor consequence of linking to any site - its Google "PageRank" will be increased. Links from popular, respected sites such as the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú are worth a lot of "PageRank".
>> This would increase the chance of Google searches putting the BNP at the top of the list - I guess most of us would prefere an anti-BNP site to be there.
I wouldn't worry too much about that. For direct searches on "BNP" the site is going to be pretty much the #1 result anyway, and the PageRank boost from being one link amongst several external links on a handful of news.bbc.co.uk pages is going to be negligible.
If 25% of British people would consider voting for the BNP (as per recent survey) then the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú should definately provide a link as it is obviously in the public interest.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is supposed to be above party politics although it has been accused of a left wing bias in the past.
Adding the link would go some way towards redressing this balance and restoring the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú's reputation for fairness.
There's no reason for the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú to treat the BNP any different from any other political party.
The rise of the BNP isn't caused by incoming links from the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú but, as we at MayorWatch wrote recently, the convergence of the main political parties who offer little for those how want more social housing and less involvement of the private sector in public services.
Of course you should link to the BNPs website when relevent. They are a legal political party just like any other and as such it is the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ús duty to to treat them the same as Labour, the Greens or UKIP. It is up to the voters to decide if the policies on their website make sense not the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ús job to deny voters the right to see them.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú's general omission of linking the perfectly legal BNP's website (while freely doing so for far-left and extremist Muslim groups like HUTs and the MPB) has only reafirmed my commitment to not paying my draconian license fee, and openly voting/supporting political dissenters like the BNP.
Perhaps the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú might reflect that the people who pay the TV Licence are it's customers, and as such come from all sides of the spectrum. If the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú wish to give links to legitimate polital websites it is not for them to pick and choose which one their customers should be allowed to visit. Show all links or none; anything else would be discrimination and bias
I belive the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú are loosing thousands of viewers anuly. Can they really offord to keep snubing and Insulting those who support or vote BNP.
Many of those pro BNP supporters including myself now say that they will not pay a Licence fee to a organisation which cinsiders them Both racist and Bigots
This is a good example of the bias which is now enriched in the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú.
I am glad I have now choose to move away from gathering my news from the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú and other mass media outlets already discriminate heavily against the BNP and other organisations who take different views of the currently politically correct multi-culti climate, by pursuing the 'No Platform' policy..Despite achieving nearly a million votes at the last election and gaining council seats all over the country, when did the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú last have a BNP representative on any discussion program?
The only time we see anyone from the BNP on screen(or radio) is when there is bad news, or an opportunity to present a distorted and negative view of the party..
So adding the link to the BNP website is the very least they can do to redress the balance..
There is nothing wrong with placing external links to the BNP website on the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú. May I just remind you that the BNP is a registered political party and by not placing a link to their website is both bias and insulting towards the party and its supporters. I have visited the BNP website a couple of times and I have found no racist information on their website. I think it would be utterly disgraceful for the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú to stop putting external links to the BNP’s website. Their website contains political information just like any other political website and. The BNP has not been proved guilty of being racist in any court in this country and in this democracy one is innocent until proven guilty.
One thing in the original article that is not quite true, or at least only giving part of the facts. For the last two general elections the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú has only linked to the BNP website under threat of legal action from the party, having originally refused to do so (although there was no propblem linking to groups like Sinn Fein, long before they even claimed to be against another IRA bombing campaign).
Immediately after the elcetions, the BNP link goes, but those to other site which many find offensive, such as Sinn Fein, remain.
In fairness, the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú News website didn't exist when the IRA were bombing everywhere. And I'm fairly sure Sinn Fein didn't have a website to link to!
A lot of people are getting heartily tired of paying for the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú, an organisation which is supposed to be unbiased, but which everyone knows is politically correct, ie neo-marxist, to the core.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is essentially a liberal- left organisation which dictates the parameters of 'acceptable' debate according to its own prejudices.
So, the 'BNP' is extreme although its views would have been thought ordinary by the generation that fought the Nazis, and still are by vast swathes of the population. The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú makes sure that the opinions of these people are never heard, except in a perjorative context. The views of New Labour and its fellow travellers, including David Cameron, are not 'extreme,' even though New Labour wants to completely obliterate the country in any recognisable form and is turning it into an ungovernable, divided, crime ridden hell-hole.
What is the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú doing having a web site this size anyway? It's supposed to be a broadcasting organisation. It has far to much power. In the interests of freedom and democracy, it should have its wings well and truly clipped. Ideally it should be scrapped and replaced by a free market system in which broadcasting companies are required by law to advertise their political affiliation rather than sheltering behind bogus independence. And I shouldn't have to pay for it.
I assume links to radical muslim organisations is not on the agenda?I support the BNP for what they stand for and what they are trying to do.I'd expect nothing less from the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú who are so biased and lean so far left its really quite amusing!!To call yourself an unbiased media organisation is comical even the topic of this blog is biased as i dont see any other blogs on organisations who's aim is an islamic britain at all costs and who use terror as a means of persuasion...where's the blog on them!!!!Remember we are a legitimate party!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Could you please tell me how treating one political party differently to all the others, because the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú does not agree with its views, is not a breach of the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú charter?
As I always say it is a persons choice to look at a site and if you really want to see evidence of why no one in their right mind would vote for such a party then let them. Their site only goes to prove what a load of cowards they really are. My gran used to say give a fool enough rope and he will hang himself.
The BNP website is a fascinating site as most of the articles are rarely reported anywhere else in the media. This is why more and more people are reading it, link or no link from the "publicly funded"-we know best- BEEB.
The BNP is a party just like any other in the UK. Its voters are just like other voters. Why is there special behaviour towards them. Is it because the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is left wing ? Are they afraid to offend the UK Muslim population ( which is after all a tiny minority of the population ). I think the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú should be above such considerations and be open to comments and opinions from ALL political parties. In the case of the BNP or other right wing parties, they will gain in strength as time passes and one day the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú will be OBLIGED to take account of them in some way or another.
I feel strongly that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú should treat all political parties the same.
The BNP has representatives in several UK councils and these people have been elected democratically.
I am angry that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú will link to organisations such as Sinn Fein which has links to the IRA, and that they will print the text of Osama Bin Laden's tapes, and yet they will not link to a democratic UK political party.
In a word, yes, the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú should link to the BNP, simply because the BNP are becoming a player in British politics and if polls are correct a large number of people may vote for them and it is up to the person reading web pages if they click on the link or not.
In today's Independent David Sparks, the leader of the Labour opposition on Dudley Council speaking on the chaos in his party said:
"We are fighting a life or death struggle against the British National Party here and this latest episode of self indulgent politicking is beyond belief."
This is the case up and down the country where the BNP is gaining popularity in former Labour strongholds.
Many elections in the North and Midlands are now a straight Labour/BNP contest and by discriminating against the BNP, the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is actively helping Labour.
The problem with the anathema pronounced by the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú on 'racism,' an extremly elastic term which includes the proposition that racial differences objectively exist and that they are important to most people, is that it is a proposition which is essentially correct. Science (eg the Human Genome project) increasingly demonstrates what is common observation.
There is nothing intrinsically 'vile' about having an opinion of a matter of fact, or that this opinion should lead to a further opinion as to how the implications should best be addressed. To say that there is, is just emotion bred out of bias, which in turn is a function of personal psychology. Eg. Atheists who believe in a material universe, in which meaning is given by the observer, neverthless manage to believe as unchallengable fact something as unlikley as the 'equality' of 'humanity.' It is a substitute, secular religion, to which we are all expected to subscribe,and those who dissent are branded heretics who are denied jobs, access to public platforms and suffer in host of other ways.
This fantasy belief, well meaning though it is, is leading this country to destruction, as liberal ideas always do, because they are based on the misconception of buman nature that it is naturally good and that things will turn out all right in the end. History and a realistic appreciation of human nature shows this to be nonsense. We are subject to original sin and therefore naturally tend to selfishness and evil.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is a church of this new faith, staffed by believers who preach it day in, day out. No wonder it gives no room for the BNP.
I do not agree with everything the BNP is about, but it is far nearer reality and common sene than any of the others, and should be allowed all the acccess to the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú that the wishful thinkers of political correctness enjoy.
The BNP are an openly racist organisation, which is explicit in many of their policy proposals- have you not seen the undercover reporting of the narrow minded members of this party?
what astonishes me is that even after all of the government's 'efforts' to promote tolerance, they allow such a ridiculous party even exist?
If you ask me, they are the biggest threat to our society and not the relatively smaller minority of 'radicals'.
Another thing, i don't agree with the fact that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú are inclined not to offend muslims when on newsround-(a kids show!) they openly promote religious hatred so tastelessly.
Post No 18!....With the exception of 'to' instead of 'too'....he summed up the feelings of just about every true British person in this country....The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú are anti British, anti Royal Family, anti British History and truly should be closed down for several months for 'cleansing' of it's left wing politics and political correctness. I shall be voting for the BNP if we are lucky enough to get a candidate in this 'Socialist Utopia' where I live in South Wales A place of high unemployment, hoplessness,despair but well fed Labour councillors....Me, a skinhead? thug? nazi? no! just a decent, law abiding 68-year old, well educated, who has 'had enough'....
Re the last post. the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú isn't just anti everything the British have a right to be proud of, it's anti the native British people themselves. They are 'hideously white' - remember?
Could there be a clearer example of the 'racism' that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú always on about and accuses the BNP of?
Oh yes, I was forgetting. According to marxist theory, only the white race is capable of 'racism.'
So that's all right, then.
The very fact you are debating whether or not to include a legal political parties link whilst adding other parties links without question show how biased the bbc is. I remember during celebrity big brother the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú linked to Respect on stories of Galloway dressed in a leotard or impersonating a cat, whilst on many stories about the bnp such as the trial of Nick Griffin there would be no link.
Your job is to report the news IMPARTIALLY not to decide the merits of political parties!
I agree with many of the posts on this isssue, especially number 4. The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú has provided links to many minority sites and to extremist parties, some of whom (eg Islamicist and Irish Republican) have supported attacks on the UK and its citizens. From what I have seen on the BNP site this party does not advocate violence at all but is painted as extremist, or the white equivalent of more radical groups, simply because the middle class-liberal-left "elite" don't like it. Failure to provide a link to the BNP site would be political, racial and cultural discrimination depriving a large section of the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú customer base of their legal rights within the UK. How would that be fair? Just because a bunch of intolerant bigots don't like a party doesn't mean it should or can be ignored. Keep the link and let people make up their own mind, or is that what Paul Brannan and his ilk are afraid of?
Some people seem to think that freedom of speech only applies to those topics with which they agree. So to all of you out there posting your objections to the link to the BNP website, I consider you to be a far greater threat to free speech and democracy than they are.
PS. why were the charges against their leader regarding his comments on home grown terrorists brought in the 1st place. Could it be that our left biased media don't want the public to be able to make informed choices?
First of all, it's pretty obvious that a request has gone out on some BNP list asking people to comment on this as the response here is incredibly unbalanced.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú has a duty to report in a balanced way, yes. It also has to work within a framework of "impartiality, fairness and without causing offence."
The BNP is not just a racist organisation; the WHOLE POINT of its existence is to promote and encourage racism. In other words, the BNP is set up to be and encourage the attitude of being partial towards white people, unfair towards non-white people and cause offence to non-white people.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú can't therefore behave towards it in the same way as it would to the Labour Party, Tories, Greens, Communists, etc. It doesn't promote impartiality to give racists as well as non-racists a voice; it just gives racists a platform to preach their vile message of hatred and stir up tension.
The attitude of Tim (comment 34) is typical of the left-wing - "if you don't agree with me then you must be racist"
The BNP is a legal political party in the UK - those on the left-wing might not like that, but those of us who believe in freedom and democracy do. In our history hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost to protect our right to free speech and the attitude of people who want the BNP to be banned (or hidden away) because they disagree with it actually sickens me more then the BNP itself.
I do NOT support the BNP, and think it would be better that the group was given enough rope to hang itself then to be hidden just out of site and hand out promises to an unsuspecting public.
If we ban political parties because some people find them distasteful we won't have any left.
As a member of the ever increasing "disillusioned with British politics party" (wll, I think it would win!) I am quite frankly bored and disgusted with the constant nannying both of the state and it's sidekick the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú. As a former labour voter I am now hard pressed to name a party whose policies I support. I do not approve of many of the BNPs' policies but I do think that this constant fear of being politically incorrect actually encourages racism -nobody likes to feel dictated to and to be told that we are unable to inform ourselves with the policys of certain opposiyion parties purely because the current government disagrees is tantamount to dictatorship. Not to mention that it automatically makes that party more interesting.
It's hilarious how many BNP trolls have attacked/polluted this discussion... and then have the audacity to complain about biased debate...
Freedom of speech: what a great idea... All it seems to lead to these days is mass propaganda and the inability to trust any source of information and debate..
Actually it wouldn't suprise me if there was just one BNP troll here with way too much time to spare.. The grammar between the posts seems pretty consistent.
It's also about time people started to learn the true meanings of 'left-wing' and 'right-wing'... The BNP are economically very left wing (Rights for the common man/working class, Job protection, social housing and various environmental initiatives) but they limit the benefits of these things to "The English" (whatever the subtext of that is). Basically it's Nationalist Socialism and firmly grounded in marxist economic theory with a big dose of authoritarian racism added. It makes me laugh when they bash the left when really their problem is with the liberals, both right and left. (Trolls - Go to the political compass to learn more about this)
I say open the debate - let them get beaten fair and square.
David, I think you would find that if wanting "rights for the common man" and "Job protection" is considered left-wing then pretty much everybody in the country would be left-wing.
In fact the right-wing is often the side which is calling for greater freedoms as the left-wing can tend towards state-control (the "don't worry your pretty head we will deal with it approach").
I don't personally have a problem with the liberals. In fact I would consider myself to be "liberal" in the true sense of the word. I have a problem with those who are not liberal, those who wish to close down debate. Calling for the BNP to be hidden from sight/banned is NOT Liberal. Liberals are tolerant of all viewpoints not just the ones they agree with, a true liberal would not wish to close down debate they disagree with.
Yes, there are flaws with Freedom of Speech - but better we live with it's flaws then live without it. Or maybe we should just get rid of our freedom of speech and let the government do our thinking for us. Hmmm! coming back to the "rights for the common man" thing again.
Freedom of speech involves hearing people that you really can't stand stating views you find distasteful. I find George Galloway to be distasteful (more because of his smug self-important attitude then his viewpoint) however his right to free speech means I have to put up with his viewpoints.
If you want to shut down the BNP then you might find that you are also shut down as there might be those who in turn find your views distasteful.
The complaint of the BNP appears to be that the native British people are being discriminated against in their own country by their own political class under the doctrines of political correctness.
What reasonable person can deny the truth of this? We see it happening on all sides. The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is just a propaganda mouthpiece for the ideology of the liberal left.
The BNP claims to be the Old Labour Party that peoples' grandparents used to vote for. That seems to be a pretty accurate description, speaking as one of those voters.
Are those who object to the BNP saying that previous generations were all evil and unacceptable?
Strange. I am old enough to know what the country was like before the 6o's revolution, and in just about every respect, including old Labour, it was morally far superior to the 'me' generation of present-day Britain.
This generation has no real basis for morality other than personal preference, but oddly claims to be able to dictate 'morality ' (amorality , more like) to others as if it were holy writ.
Why does the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú deny the right of the BNP to express their views, but are constantly asking the opinions of Muslims? Your Anglophobic agenda is clearly illustrated by the percentage of English presenters on TV compared to those from ethnic minorities, including the Welsh, Scots and Irish. Even when interviewing in the street you will invariably chose a black person first, your left-wing, PC agenda has made you a laughing stock.
It's disgraceful that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú are not prepared to link to the BNP website.
They may have policies that many find offensive but they are still a legitimate political party operating within the law in the UK!
It seems to me that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú are actually fuelling support for the BNP by denying them their legitimate rights.
The basic fair mindeeness of British people sees something very wrong when a powerful, monopolistic information provider like the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is so openly biased against a political party. We are mature enough to make up our own minds with out being spoonfed non-stop propaganda about 'evil racists' by the Marxists in charge of the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú.
Whatever happened to the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Charter requirement to present news in a manner which was impartial and accurate?
Did it disappear when someone discovered the organisation was 'hideously white'?
I don't think that people are necessarily turning to the BNP as a result Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú ant- BNPlink. What they are "Tired of" is Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú's preponderence to "Political Correctness" which is prominent on Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú websites and Messageboards. It is a sort of retaliation to P.C.
A term often seen on Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú publications is "Racist" which is a term created by the Political Correct and the Establishment and which was used to end an argument in a P.C.s favour. In truth a racist is a person who takes part in a race (a competitor)
This view was endorsed by a previous Home Secretary, David Blunkett when he introduced the Racial Hatred Bill specifically aimed at discrediting the BNP. Since then many 'Protests' have been made by Muslims that have incited or encouraged other Muslims to Kill a variety of Christian people and give support to extremism. Nothing has been done about this, or not visibly.
It is the British nature to support the 'Underdog' and in this case BNP
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is the State Broadcaster and as such, is controlled by the government of the day. We have a left-wing Socialist government ergo we have a left-wing Socialist State Broadcaster.
No Broadcaster can be considered impartial when it is reliant upon political patronage and enforced taxation for funding.
Of course the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú will stifle debate seen as contrary to the wishes of it's political masters.
He who pays the piper.
A Wallace, the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is supposed to be independant of the government of the day.
And I don't think anyone can claim that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú has blindly supported the Labour government - and for those that do I will just mention the phrase "sexed up".
Why is preferring to associate with people like oneself racially and culturally 'Racist?' Its humanly normal. It's what people everywhere have been doing since time immemorial. To call these attitudes 'racist,'which is what the racial extremist marxists at the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú do, is a vile slander on millions of ordinary decent people.
The deliberate intention is to bracket reasonable, humanly normal attitudes like this with the Nazis and genocide, and so to traduce them.
So long as the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú openly espouses this extremist marxist ideology, it will be considered a political enemy by huge swathes of the British people, who, while they can do nothing about it because of a flawed system of democracy, know that they are being comprehensively betrayed by a poltical class which actively despises everything they are and were, and seeks to destroy them and every thing familiar to them and that they love, with mass immigration.
Can I ask why the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is reluctant to link to the BNP web site (a legal British political party - like it or not) yet is willing to give air time to a muslim extremist a public platform to spread his hate?
The views held by extremist muslims are just as bad as those held by members of the BNP - yet the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú refuses to link to one group and provides a platform for another.
The irony would be that if it was the muslim groups that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú were refusing to provide a platform for the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú would be consider racist.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú are happy to provide support and air time to extremist Islamic leaders such as Abu Izzadeen but not to non Muslim extremists such as the BNP.
Now if only the BNP were non-white - the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú would happily air their views....
The poster who said the BNP website is reppellant is a moron who has never looked at it. I don't support them, but they seem to be making more than an effort to ensure their content is not overly right wing even.
Of course the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú should link to it, and they should be utterly ashamed that Abu Izzadeen, who you can see on Youtube making fun of the the victims of 9/11 and who thinks the terrorists are great, has a voice and has been interviewed a number of times, and only recently, but an official British political party is not even allowed a link?
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú must understand that they are now on borrowed time and it would not takle much for a politician to announce the licence fee was to be scrapped, and they are thinking about it as it would bring in masses of votes. You need to reflect the majority will Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú of the people who fund you. For too long you have been given free rein, and it now shows and is making you les popular than you ever have been in history; if it wasn't for the fact that Sky has the same broad agenda in supporting a Labour government you would be struggling to keep public funding.
Help the BNP?
Dear me, can't have that!
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is here to spread the cult of political correctness. Helping anyone who is opposed to that is simply not in the job description!!
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú might not be wholly in favour of New Labour, but that is only because New Labour sometimes does not go about the task of destroying traditional Britain with sufficient efficiency for the liking of Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú zealots.
What a grim joke it is that in the Islamic future of this country, encouraged by the multiculturalists/multiracialists of New Labour and their allies in the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú, among the first to suffer under Shariah law will be Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú journalists and programme makers.
As you can see by the majority of posts on this topic, true British people want access to information and to have the option to make up thier own minds. We have known for some years that we are being silently dictated to. Did I miss the vote on immigration, EU entry, imperial to metric, etc. etc.? What about the growing numbers of cameras everywhere, making sure the people behave?!
Of course the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú should put a link to the BNP site. Perhaps some ideas from such parties may make the current leaders wake up and smell the coffee... True British people are very angry about a Government that tries to make them feel ashamed about their own history, culture and views. Shame on them.
Does anyone really think that a Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú hyperlink to the BNP website will lead people to believe that either of them endorses the other?
Love them or revile them, the BNP are a legally-established political party. Either link to all parties in the election or none.
Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, the head of the Catholic Church in England and Wales, thinks that a Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú programme rubbishing the Pope was 'deeply prejudiced.'
Well of course the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is deeply prejudiced. It has been pursuing an agenda encouraging the destruction of Western Civilisation, and its replacement with a marxist inspired nirvana of egalitarianism. The Pope, like the BNP, stands in the way of this fantasy.
Multiculturalism and multiracialism has no chance of succeeding without massively crushing freedoms of speech, association and political rights in a state increasingly coming to resemble the Sovet Union in this respect. This ideology is going to be the source of endless social division, conflicts and decay.
The BNP, like the Cardinal, has every right to protest at the blatant bias of this vipers nest of marxists who wish this future on us, and to be accorded all the links and other privileges reserved for parties favoured by the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú.
If the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú did not include links to the BNP website they would not be showing the whole picture. The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is quick to link to Muslim sites that speak only for themselves, such as the reprehensible Muslim Council of Britain, but feel there is something wrong with allowing people to see another point of view.
For example, there has been no disscussion as to wheather it is 'correct' to link to Islamic sites. Some of the content on such sites is highly offensive. Britons are often sneeringly refered to as "kuffars".
Of course BNP should be linked too every bit as much as any other political/religeous page if it is relevant to the story.
I'd say at this present time BNP are becomeing increasingly popular and will get seats in parliment in the next election simply becuase of the main parties complete disregard to the way English people feel about our immigration policy and the fact we as English people are made to be ashamed of OUR culture and yet any other culture is to be encouraged.
In fairness to the British National Party, their website is NOT racist and those who claim it is 'vile' etc are probably doing so by pre-judging the site without seeing it. And prejudging is, of course, prejudice! It may well be argued, that the members of the BNP are racists, although they would probably hotly contest that point.
But those who say the website is racist, should hold their noses, log on, and find us all a few examples. Where is the racism on the BNP website? I can only say that I could not find any when I looked. And yes, as others point out, I think an organisation such as the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú, which can allow such prominence to the Muslim peddlers of hatred on a regular basis, need not feel it is overstepping the mark to link to a far right party such as the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú. I hardly think the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú will ever be accused of right-wing, let alone very right-wing bias in its news output!
'The word 'conservative' is used by the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú as a portmanteau word of abuse for anyone whose views differ from the insufferable, smug,sanctimonious, naive, guilt-ridden, wet pink orthodoxy of that sunset home of the third-rate members of that third-rate decade, the nineteen-sixties.'-
Norman Tebbit.
As for the words 'Far Right Extremist'- these are used by the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú for any ordinary native Briton who prefers his/her country more the way it used to be before the said insufferable, smug etc etc and their colleagues in destruction in New Labour and elsewhere got their hands on it.
The fact that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú has a hyperlink to the BNP website is not important. What about the Respect Coalition? It is an unholy alliance between the Socialist Workers Party, which is marxist and the Muslim Association of Britain, which is Islamic Fundamentalist; the Hitler-Stalin pact of our day. A few years ago, senior Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú editors prevented journalists from reporting the fact that this totalitarian party, the SWP, was in the driviing seat of RESPECT. Was this an editorial decision or a politcal decision? If it were a political decision, which it surely was, then this was a blatant disregard of our democratic process and a blatant disregard of the so-called non-partisanship of the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú.
Hello Paul Brannan,
Quoted: Should the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú News website link to the BNP's online pages? In doing so are we driving traffic to the party's "ignorant, hateful and cowardly" content, as one complainant insists?
My take on this is simple: Its "ignorant, hateful and cowardly" NOT to allow the BNP their crack of the whip.
Give them your open TV forum like any other politician can have. I'd love to see them on "Question Time" etc. A million people voted for them. A lot more will soon.
You want racism? Lets go to war with some beat up sovereign state.. ooops, we already have. Thanks for the terrorists. Maybe its time to not give our National SOCIALISTS (nazis) a platform anymore.
Its only right that this parties policies are seen for what they are. When the B.N.P. is brought up on you're programs it seems to be under attack, as is U.K.I.P., these parties have been elected legally, it just goes to show you're left wing approach is biased. who pays you're wages?