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Posted by Barn Owl (U2274761) on Thursday, 2nd November 2006
That pargetting was the rather attractive plastering sometimes found on the outside of buildings. Done, I presume, by pargetters. You know where this is going, I suppose? It got me to wondering about Nigel's geneology. It should be fairly well documented, as he is so well healed...
"Lower Loxley hall
Lower Loxley Hall is the ancestral home of the Pargetter family. The date on the front door is 1702, and the Pargetter family tree can be traced as far back as the seventeenth centr. Peacocks strut on the lawns which are surrounded by 400 acres of parkland. The gardens are said to have been laid out by Sir John Pargetter who made his fortune in colonial India."
Thanks for that Rosie. I'm surprised that it doesn't go further back - another passtime for Nigel to get hooked on perhaps?
I think it was once put forward that the family were nouveaux riches in the seventeenth century, their surname indicating a lowlier origin before that time....
What, Nigel, an Essex boy?
Snork.
[I'm from Essex myself, so no offence intended]
I've often wondered whether the Pargetters originally hailed from Essex - which is the county most associated with pargetting. I'd also like to know whether there is any pargetting on the elevations of Lower Locksley [sp? I can never remember] and moreover whether Nigel has ever considered adding pargetting lessons to the attractions currently available to visitors (it would seem to go well with hawking and bodging).
Barn Owl,
Much of the Pargetter family has been chronicled on these boards. See:
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Much of the Pargetter family has been chronicled on these boards. See:
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I don't know how I managed to miss that! Thank you Ina - very entertaining.
There was a programme about pargetting on Radio 4 a month or two ago. I think that there was a father and son pargetter telling us about their profession. I believe it was one of a series about disappearing trades.
Years ago I used to drive through Coggeshall quite often.
There are some excellent pargetted buildings there.
bob
I was born in a house in a tiny village in Essex where all the established houses (ie those over 200 years old - nonoe of these Victorian blow-ins!) were pargetted. I thought it was an Essex thing?
So some of Nigel's ancestors must have been clever craftsmen and known past Essex for their skills - summoned to Borsetshire to do a favour for a special bit of plastering for a lord, and then worked their way up to gentility ...
, in reply to message 11.
Posted by Farewell Fieldpenguin (U2266391) on Sunday, 12th November 2006
I've always been struck by how many characters have these 'trade' names - Archer, Fletcher, Pargeter, Carter. I'm not sure what a Tucker and a Turner do, but I assume a Jazzer is some kind of musician
Tucker - cleaner of cloth goods
Turner - one who turns wood on a lathe into spindles
No idea about Grundy though!
Not being fluent in French, I didn't know that a fletcher was a maker of arrows. What an education this message board can be!
Archers and Fletchers together in Ambridge... Ummm, what historical justification might there be for that, I wonder.
I vaguely remember reading somewhere that pargetting originated as a way of covering up less than perfect woodwork - an ancient method of plastering over the cracks?
Lower Loxley Hall is the ancestral home of the Pargetter family. The date on the front door is 1702, and the Pargetter family tree can be traced as far back as the seventeenth centr.Â
That was the pargetter's sign on the front door.
This building was pargetted by... in TYoOL 1702.
The man's name has probably eroded away.#
"what historical justification might there be for that, I wonder."
Read Lynda Snell's "Heritage of Ambridge" and wondr no longer - she has the explaination for it all!
"No idea about Grundy though!"
Grundy County -Created 1844 from Coffee, Warren and Franklincounties; named in honor of Felix Grundy (1777-1840), chief justice of the Kentucky Supreme Court,U.S. congressman and senator from Tennessee, U.S.attorney general under President Van Buren.
Just Eileen
"What, Nigel, an Essex boy?
Snork."
Well he did have that spell in the City.
IIRC he was only there about 6 months but even a simpleton like him (sorry Sharpers) managed to make a small fortune.
Maybe that reflects real life.
bob
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by Bleak_Midwinter_Squirrel_Nutcase (U2248205) on Tuesday, 14th November 2006
Nigel must come from rising top artisan plasterer stock made good. Not what the late pretentious Julia would have liked to believe.
Parget(t)er = one who 'pargets' i.e. does decorative plaster work: from Old French 'parjeter' = to chuck vigorously, possibly conflated with Old French 'porjeter' = to chuck rough plaster at a wall, with a debated possibly different prefix but it all comes down to the same thing by the time you get to East Anglian English. Presumably the Pargeters moved Westwards at some point after making their money.
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