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Message 1.Â
Posted by JennyWren (U2220721) on Friday, 6th February 2009
I'm probably being impatient, I usually am, but where is it and can we expect it soon?
I think podcasts are brilliant when they work, but TA podcasts are so unreliable, I'm more surprised when they work than when they don't.
Jenny -
Message 2
Posted by beaucastel (U2884363) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
So here we go again!!
They have no in built mechanism to tell them that that the podcast has failed to publish and although I suggested some time go that they do it manually until a high degree of confidence was re-established, we are belly up once again!
To put no finer point on it, you those overpaid, quite useless examples of what used to be called effective management should hand in your Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú badges in and scuttle off to the real world which would not employ them even if their very lives depended on it!!
You Sirs are an absolute disgrace to all that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú stands for. -
Message 3
Posted by crezza (U1019883) on Friday, 6th February 2009
agreed Jenny - it is so boring to come home from work to find the podcast has not been posted. As previously discussed to death, it surely can't be that hard to do it! I love the way they post the missing podcasts a couple of days later - genius. Wake up Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú - sort it out - cut Jonathon Ross's obscene pay packet a bit more and employ a team to properly administer your website. If you hadn't heard, this is the digital age...
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Message 4
Posted by Mad.Curious.Cat (U12816826) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
It is not here yet at 7:15 am on Saturday.
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Message 5
Posted by Mad.Curious.Cat (U12816826) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
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Message 6
Posted by Sutton Wolf (U13804227) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
11-15 Sat, and still no podcast. How dare we expect the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú to behave like a professional, well (publicly!) funded organisation that is (we are told) the envy of the world? Instead, let's be grateful that it resembles the well meaning neighbour who sometimes remembers to push post through the letterbox so that burglars can't see when we are on holiday. After all, they are doing us a favour - aren't they.......?
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Message 7
Posted by beaucastel (U2884363) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
I subscribe to Fighting Talk, a hilarious sports comedy show from R5Live.
It NEVER fails to publish on time every time, week after week without fail.
By comparison, the useless bunch of articles who are reponsible for this podcast should maybe spend a week with the guys who get the job done.
Either that or a visit to the nearest jobcentre to concentrate their minds on the job in hand rather than face looking for their next one! If it turns out to be the latter, at least they will be familiar with the office's geography. -
Message 8
Posted by Annie Curtis (U2312875) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
Still nothing. I suspect we won't get this till Monday now. Boo Hiss!
Friday pm's Feedback addressed the poor supply to IPlayer but no mention of the podcast. Perhaps it is a position they can't defend.
Me I would dump Jonathan Ross to pay for more staff to manage this. It is ridiculous how often this needs human intervention when there are no humans around!
GRRRR!
Annie -
Message 9
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
eh, i listened this morning to the, eh, not the podcast, the other thing. What's the problem with listening to that if the podcast is being problematical?
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Message 10
Posted by JennyWren (U2220721) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
Well, I missed last night's TA and listened to it via the iPlayer, which was fine. However, I like to download the podcast, when available, copy it to my iPod, which is more portable than my laptop, and when I wake in the middle of the night, as I usually do, I can pick up the iPod and listen, I can also listen wherever I am.
As I said previously, podcasts are brilliant, IMO, when they work, but TA podcasts seem to fail at least once a week and this week they have failed twice. It's frustrating.
Jenny -
Message 11
Posted by beaucastel (U2884363) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
If you want to listen stuck to your computer that is your choice.
I like my choice which is podcast. -
Message 12
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
Sometimes it's so good nOt to have a choice
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Message 13
Posted by fastClarice (U6195389) on Saturday, 7th February 2009
5pm Saturday and Friday's podcast is still missing, despite a long explanation on 'Feedback' this week about how they aimed to make them available within an hour of the broadcast. Is this an example of dramatic irony?
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Message 14
Posted by Craig Fisher (U9094028) on Sunday, 8th February 2009
Having listened to the Archers via Podcast for well over a year now - before that it was only when my car journeys coincided with 1400 or 1900 (normally 2-3 times a week for the last 10 years) - I found myself truly drawn in as never before. It is brilliant I know it's "new fangled" and there are "teething problems"... It comes it goes, it's broken, it's fixed, it's late, it's the wrong edition... (running an Internet company, I know what should possible!)
I've made pleas for root-causes to be discovered, listening to the 'reasons' if they ever appear; at the same time I've watched wholesale improvements across vast swathes of the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú's web real-estate...
But it's finally happened.
I just can't be bothered any more.
Goodbye Archers; my car trips are different these days, so our meetings will be few and far between.
Disenchanted. Disappointed. Sad. -
Message 15
Posted by beaucastel (U2884363) on Sunday, 8th February 2009
Campbell-in clogs,
You are stuck in a bygone age, no hang on; I get it now, it's the clogs and you are into wood.
You wish to limit how many different ways that we can access this programme, You want to tell us that it's your way or no way. I have news for you, your President said a sad farewell(20th Jan 2009) to office much to the relief of most of the nation who elected him 4 years ago, and with your mindset you might join him as the archetypal luddite.
The world has choices that increase day by day, it's called technology, I suspect dinosaur is your descriptor but it may well be amoeba!!
And by the way, if your name is as it suggests, you will find that you are confronted by 22 souls such as I at Murrayfield today, and you might find that the experience hopefully as uncomfortable as this! -
Message 16
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Sunday, 8th February 2009
Calm down - it was just my wee attempt at humor. Obviously lost in the stress of you not having access to a podcast. Enjoy the match.
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Message 17
Posted by Mad.Curious.Cat (U12816826) on Sunday, 8th February 2009
Well, it made ME smile, Campbell.
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Message 18
Posted by beaucastel (U2884363) on Sunday, 8th February 2009
There have been a number of philistines on this board who have questioned the value/existance of the podcast.
Plot regained, and off to immerse myself in a dellectable dollop of rugby, followed by a decent dinner with rugby minded afficiaados accompanied by industrial quantities of good wine at a fine Edinburgh restaurant.
The thing that really gets me about this podcast is that Radio5L can take a live broadcast on a Saturday and Sunday Morning and turn it round within an hour or so to the podcast which NEVER fails to publish
These dolts have the episode maybe for days or even weeks and still regularly manage to fail breathtakingly often! -
Message 19
Posted by virtual_jan (U13662056) on Sunday, 8th February 2009
So this is the second time this week that the podcast has failed to appear- what a joke! Not all of us can get the iplayer easily ; my computer -although fast broadband -spends more time buffering than playing on listen again, so I really cannot be bothered trying it again. So now I cannot listen to this evening's broadcast until I have found a way of listening to Friday's. And there I was thinking that technology was meant to solve problems, not create them....
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Message 20
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Sunday, 8th February 2009
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I've never been one of them. I have often been glad of the podcast when the other LA thing didn't work. I just can't get all that bothered about it sometimes being a wee bit late. I'm already delighted that I now have at least the opportunity to hear programmes I've missed. But you carry on your campaign to improve the service there beau, just don't get tOO stressed about it eh? (Who won?) -
Message 21
Posted by Sutton Wolf (U13804227) on Monday, 9th February 2009
Monday 9.50 and still no podcast from Friday. I know that we may seem to be overreacting, but presumably the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú provide the service so that listeners can take advantage of it. To the unitiated at least, this involves listening to episodes in the right order, which is clearly not possible when one ( or two, or three) go missing. This is incompetent - if it's a service the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú can't deliver, why pretend they can?
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Message 22
Posted by crezza (U1019883) on Sunday, 8th February 2009
so there is someone hiding in the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú HQ to post the Archers podcast. Today's has just been posted - but still no sign of Friday's. Hello out there, whoever you are in that small dark room, could you have a root around on your PC and see if you could find Friday's podcast and chuck it on the site. Here is a clue - the file name might well be archers_20090206-1920a.mp3
Cheers. -
Message 23
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Monday, 9th February 2009
Someone must have spilt tea over it. Or beer. It was Friday night after all...
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Message 24
Posted by beaucastel (U2884363) on Monday, 9th February 2009
Just downloaded it via iTunes.
Not a word from the people responsible, no explanation, no apology or any word on how this siuation may be avoided in the future.
And, you know that I am not surprised at all!!! -
Message 25
Posted by greenwichmark (U6529212) on Monday, 9th February 2009
When it happened on Monday last week, Mr Keri worked his magic and it appeared (eventually). No word from him this time - perhaps he is just too embarrassed. Or on holiday - even he must be allowed one!
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Message 26
Posted by beaucastel (U2884363) on Monday, 9th February 2009
I do not care whether it is Mr Keri or the man in the moon who is reponsible, someone must have realised this morning that the Friday podcast had not published and the appropriate steps have been taken.
I have indicated that there are techies working the weekend, they manage to publish the R4 Broadcasting House podcast within an hour of live bradcast, no problem. Those at R5L manage the same with Fighting Talk and Sports Week. So where is the problem with one of these teams/guys on the weekend checking that the Archers podcast is ok? Where is the problem of someone in this vast organisation checking 1 hour after broadcast time that the podcast has gone out ok, 6 evenings a week? Where is the problem with one of the people who is reponsible doing it for themselves and sorting it out primarily?
We know that the fix is simple because once they realise that it has failed it gets sorted within minutes.
Why cannot in the short term, a couple of volunteers on this board be given an email address to contact someone in the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú to tell them directly that it has failed again? I feel that I am doing their job for them, in that none of this is rocket science. It is however an indictaion of maybe a few people at the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú who really do not care. They are not motivated enough to get a fix, short/medium or long term in place.
Maybe one day when I get really mad about this situation, I will do my darndest to find a few addresses of the bosses or board members of the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú and send to them ( for delivery on a Saturday morning, Royal Mail - Special Delivery, before 9.00 am) a history of what has happened here.
Monday morning might be very, very interesting!!
You cannot say that you have not been warned. -
Message 27
Posted by RosieT (U2224719) on Monday, 9th February 2009
Can I just make a Note:
This is the part of the board for Notes and Queries about The Archers, or about the Archers messageboard.
I am finding it distressing that it is being used for rants about technical problems, that we, who use this messageboards, can do nothing about. This seems to be mainly the problem of podcasts. We are listeners, we are not the bbc engineers.
Perhaps Keri, if he reads this, could use the eighth board as a Podcast Problems board? -
Message 28
Posted by Keri Davies (U2219620) on Monday, 9th February 2009
As soon as I got the Mailbox today (not my usual workplace, which is home), I discovered that the missing podcasts were being attended to.
As it happens, on Friday we were discussing this very issue, its causes and how we could put a system in place to mitigate the problems we've been having.
I do understand the frustration, which I share, and for which I apologise. -
Message 29
Posted by beaucastel (U2884363) on Monday, 9th February 2009
Me, I would be deleriously happy not to EVER have to post on this or any other Archers board again.
I use this board because it seems to me to be the most appropriate one, tell me to post somewhere else and I will be off in a nanosecond.
Get the podcasts sorted out, for me it seems to be so simple, but then I have that sort of background.
But it does seem that no substantive effort or resources are being devoted here to sort out what truly is a mickey mouse problem.
One Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú employee for 1 minute Sunday to Friday to check at 9.00pm as to whether the podcast is ok. Seems freakishly simple to me.
Give me the email address and I will do it!
Now these an offer!! -
Message 30
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Monday, 9th February 2009
Oi fink yer ave ter contact Sumwon In Aufority mate! Best o' British. Tally Ho. Onwards and Upwards. Aw ra best pal (sorry, having a schizo week with the accents I suspect...) Ye still huvnae telt me who won the rugby, by the by...
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Message 31
Posted by beaucastel (U2884363) on Monday, 9th February 2009
The game was won by the team who will probably hand out(I hope)a drubbing of historic proportions to the visitors at the Millenium Stadium next Saturday. We were the victims of scores such as 60-26 (93), 46-12 (00), 15-44 (01) , 50-12 (02) and 47-13 in 2006. It is about time that we had one decent one on the way back!!
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Message 32
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Monday, 9th February 2009
Ah well, no shame in losing to the Welsh right enough. I always loved the atmosphere in Edinburgh when they were up for the rugby. No-one really cared over much who won as long as you got to hear them singing up the town afterwards...
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Message 33
Posted by typewright (U5444120) on Monday, 9th February 2009
With you both, beau and Campbell! Bloomin good game it was, too.
(PS: I get P'd off about the podcast, too, because LA doesn't work any more, but have given up posting about it because nothing ever seems to get done. Hope Mr K's good work brings results) -
Message 34
Posted by greenwichmark (U6529212) on Tuesday, 10th February 2009
Thanks Mr Keri - all in order for now
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Message 35
Posted by Damejintymcginty (U12603363) on Tuesday, 10th February 2009
Very Good, however tonight's podcast is missing. The synopsis isn't quite the same and as I share a flat and the pooter is in a communal room, it isn't as convenient to listen again.
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Message 36
Posted by Sutton Wolf (U13804227) on Tuesday, 10th February 2009
Keri - not down to you, but sounds like Friday's discussion was a blinder when it comes to problem solving...
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