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Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Monday, 29th June 2009
Jennifer seemed to be able to console a distraught Lillian without having to worry about a small child.
A small child usually makes their presence felt, and is a brake on domestic flexibility.
Also, they can be like barometers for emotion. In RL, a distraught auntie would usually cause a small child some stress - they would probably need reassurance, especially if they were still emotionally secure themselves.
Excellent point.
Hmm. Maybe he was packed off to Lower Loxley to play with the twins?
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Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Monday, 29th June 2009
Yes Carrick, the presence of a child around a depressed person is extremely tricky and can be damaging for the child. My mother now in her 80s was very affected by her father's depression.
A child may diffuse the situation for the non-depressed adults in the house but may add extra stress for everyone. People with depression often cry a lot and most children are badly affected by seeing adults cry.
Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:03 GMT, in reply to furiouslocki in message 3
I was wondering about this over at my place, specifically how Lilian could be wandering about Jenny's kitchen at 4am/5am without wandering into/waking up Rorrrrry,,,?
Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:58 GMT, in reply to Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcup-and-Spoonwinner, Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) in message 4
Looked up the character; he's 6 and a half now. Scary.
As most of us who have had small children aound, in whatever capacity know, the moments of high drama in life don't stop then needing somthing to eat or needing to be reminded to go to bed.
Using my imagination, I'd imagine that a slightly insecure (it would be a miracle if he wasn't) child like Ruari would need to have his domestic routine (bath, bedtime story, whatever), particularly if the house was full of stressed drama-queens.
I would have thoght that this situation would have had great dramatic potentia, divided loyalties etc.
There's all sorts of maybes.
Why don't they just *tell* sometimes? it'd only take a few seconds.
Good point.
I accept that there must be many characters off-mike, if not actual silents. But it doesn't take much just to drop in the odd comment.
We seem to get comments about Sabrina but rarely about more frontline characters.
bob
Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:47 GMT, in reply to bob larkin in message 7
Sometime soon we'll get the line "It's almost the anniversary of Roary's death, isn't it darling. Such a shame he walked under that tractor."
Or Phil might say "I think I will pop over and see Chris. Oh no I forgot, she died while on tour with the orchestra and Peter could not remember where she lived so he buried her in Vienna."
Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:22 GMT, in reply to LJG1410 in message 6
Why don't they just *tell* sometimes? it'd only take a few seconds.Ìý
They *do* tell (sometimes). It seems to me that some posters think that every appearance of Jenny should be accompanied by a status check for Ruairi ... where he is, what he had for breakfast, what his itinerary is for the next 24 hours ... which would make for extremely tedious episodes (imho). Can't we all just forget about Ruairi for the next 10 years, or so?
In that instance, didn't Jenny say to Lilian that Brian could and should take responsibility for Ruairi while she was at the Dower House?
Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:12 GMT, in reply to mike .... in message 10
It seems to me that some posters think that every appearance of Jenny should be accompanied by a status check for Ruairi ...Ìý
No, just every time that they (increasingly frequently) have a scene where Jenny, Brine and Adam are together and Adam mentions that Ian's busy at work. Who is babysitting? Do they have that rarest of all items - a 5-year-old that /doesn't/ push into the middle of every adult gathering seeking to be the centre of attention? We want to know!
carrick-bend in message 1
<-------- There he is!
I'm firmly with Mike on this one!
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Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Monday, 6th July 2009
But it is all so unnatural.
There was the growing storyline when Brian wanted to bring Roairi home of Jenny saying she was to old to take on a child again....and how exhausting it would be.
But she doesn't seem to be at all frazzled by looking after him now.
And the school holidays are fast approaching and what have they planned? not just Brian & Jenny but any of the parents with school-age children?
Tue, 07 Jul 2009 09:20 GMT, in reply to Leaping Badger in message 14
I'm firmly with Mike on this one!
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you can if you want to, but to my mind it's an inconsistency on a par with Peggy saying "Where have we been for the last 3 months? Jack organised a world cruise for us both - we ha a lively time, with all that site-seeing and dancing the nights away."
Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:20 GMT, in reply to carrick-bend in message 17
Jack organised a world cruise for us both - we ha a lively time, with all that site-seeingÌý
What a shame to book a 3-month cruise and spend the entire time on the internet.
Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:24 GMT, in reply to Peet (the Pedantic Punctuation Policeman, Muse of Lateral Programming Ideas, Eggcup-and-Spoonwinner, Cheese Namer & Zaphodista) in message 18
Sorry!
Snork, though.
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Posted by Mad.Curious.Cat (U12816826) on Tuesday, 7th July 2009
Snork 2.
Not an inconsistency on my part, just a continuation of my fervent wish that Ruairi had never been brought to Home Farm in the first place. Yukyukyuk.
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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:07 GMT, in reply to Leaping Badger in message 21
Jenny said today "I'll go and see her - will you pick up Ruari, Brian?"
Well.
A few days ago, Brian said to Adam that Jenny had enough on her plate without looking after Lilian, with among other things 'looking after Ruairi'; to which Adam retorted 'and looking after you'. There have been other occasional references to him, but it does seem that JD no longer finds him a burden.
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Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:44 GMT, in reply to Leaping Badger in message 23
I assume that's because they keep him chained up in the cupboard under the stairs. It's the only /possible/ explanation for why he never bursts in and interrupts a conversation.
SWs, remember, a character is for life, not just for Christmas...
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Posted by Mad.Curious.Cat (U12816826) on Tuesday, 7th July 2009
<< SWs, remember, a character is for life, not just for Christmas... >>
Snork! Excellent.
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Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Friday, 10th July 2009
I also worry about Spearmint. I know Lilian is there now, fussing over him, but who normally mucks him out? Takes him for a ride? Feeds him?
Perhaps Roairi has been given the job and now lives permanently in the stables.
Would a 6-7 year old be able to do all that?
Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:57 GMT, in reply to LJG1410 in message 27
If he was a small leprechaun-like 6 year old, he would be able to walk under Spearmint, which could be useful.
When I was 5 or 6, I was holding the leading reins of two hunters, in a stable yard, for a minute, when they both lifted their heads at the same moment and lifted me off the ground.
Brian and Jenny would be able to economise on fair-ground rides, heating, all sorts.
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