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Posted by beachpebble (U14425083) on Friday, 16th April 2010
I posted a message (my first) about Jazzer's use of the word "gay" in Sunday's omnibus. Maybe I should have put it here. Please tell your writers that just because 10year old school kids use the word gay to mean lame, or ineffectual, it is homophobic and as such should not be unchallenged in the script. And if Jazzer was meant to imply that a shampoo perfume made him feel "gay" then the poor boy needs a reality check!
I refer you to teh Dodgson conjecture:
"`When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'
Gay is used a a wide variety of ways (including Jazzer's) with many shades of meaning. Who is to say which are right and which wrong?
Some of us are old enough to use the word "gay" in its traditional sense (e.g. Sunday's child ... good and gay).
Fri, 16 Apr 2010 08:25 GMT, in reply to dickie
Guess I can't refer to something as being gaily decorated then, in case it is taken as stereotyping the interior decor styles of homosexuals.
If I remember rightly, at the funeral of Airey Neave he was referred to as 'gay'. This adjective was used in a list of several adjectives. The majority of people, I would have thought, realised that it was being used in the original meaning and did not mean he was homosexual. However, the word was omitted in later broadcasts of this funeral speech. This was in the seventies. In case I am accused of this post not being a 'note' or a 'query', I just wanted to make the point that the use of the word 'gay' has long being a controversial one.
Some of us remember Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble having 'a gay old time' too.
The old use of gay has now passed out of the language and there is little point in using it in its original sense. This happens to words all the time, nice being an obvious example.
This is a nice point to make ... and I for one am happy to use words in a sense which is no longer common.
To say that the gay "has now passed out of the language" in its original sense is an overstatement.
I haven't heard a single person use the word gay in its original sense in many years, and I'm not even sure if anyone under the age of 40 would even be aware of its original usage.
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by _ShropshireLad_ (U10844552) on Friday, 16th April 2010
Fri, 16 Apr 2010 13:44 GMT, in reply to beachpebble in message 1
I missed this. What exactly did he say?
They are usually very careful about using gay in the way ten year olds do.
The shampoo in the hamper he won at the talent thing made him smell "well gay" so he gave it to Fallon.
, in reply to message 11.
Posted by _ShropshireLad_ (U10844552) on Friday, 16th April 2010
Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:18 GMT, in reply to LJG in message 11
Well, I think he probably meant that it made him smell like a homosexual, then. As the OP said, that just shows that he doesn't know much about gay people.
I really don't think TA SWs would use gay in the playground sense, it is a very unhelpful usage indeed as the OP said, and is encouraged by people like Chris Moyles who should know better.
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