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  Posted by purplevioletta (U10315262) on Tuesday, 27th April 2010

  I am puzzled by some of the scriptwriters sentences. Noticed it a few years ago that they had taken to saying "Woodbine" or "Honeysuckle" as in "I"m going down to Woodbine" which doesn't ring true somehow. You'd say it in full or just "the cottage", and yes I accept you do need the name to avoid confusion but it pulls me up short when I hear it abbreviated. Also more recently strange usages like "went back to theirs" and "tell them your staying at mine"- both from May 13th but not uncommon - sounds forced in some way. Do the writers have to try to edit to fit the time? and do the actors ever comment at these unlikely phrases?

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  Posted by mike (U14258103) on Wednesday, 28th April 2010

  Wed, 28 Apr 2010 06:30 GMT, in reply to purplevioletta
  
  These phrases all sound perfectly natural to me.

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  Posted by Reggie Trentham (U2746099) on Wednesday, 28th April 2010

  References to 'Woodbine' and 'Honeysuckle' without 'Cottage' grate on me a bit but maybe people do refer to house names like that.
  
  No problem with the other phrases though.

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  Posted by LJG (U14428911) on Wednesday, 28th April 2010

  <"went back to theirs" and "tell them your staying at mine">
  
  Yes, I've heard those (and similar) phrases quite frequently, (were they Scouse in origin? or was it just that I first heard them in Brookside?)

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  Posted by Elnora Cornstalk (U5646495) on Wednesday, 28th April 2010

  
  
  I don't know the answer to that, LJG; but I heard them both on the Tyneside Metro a couple of days ago (a conversation between two people far too young to remember Brookside, alas!).
  
  As for abbreviating the names of houses - I haven't lived anywhere with many house/cottage names for a long time, so, again, don't know whether this is now common. But where I live, people seem to abbreviate the names of anything and everything, including buildings, areas of the city, and names of towns. None of this jolts.

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  Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Wednesday, 28th April 2010

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  These have been in common usage for years, at least in the sorts of circles I bump up against. I use them myself. In fact, there's even a series of CDs (long-players, in old parlance) with the title Back To Mine, in which musicians choose the tracks they'd play to people who came to their houses.
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  Posted by purplevioletta (U10315262) on Friday, 30th April 2010

  Thank you folks. I must just lead a very sheltered life.

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  Posted by PepperTree But No Petard (U13945752) on Saturday, 1st May 2010

  
  Not nescesarily. It may be that you are royalty, or foreign, or both. There are many reasons why you hadn't heard these phrases before. Strange all the same.
  
  
  
  

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  Posted by Twin-Lions (U3870602) on Sunday, 2nd May 2010

  I live in an Ambridge-sized village and find the usage strange. With us you'd say Woodbine Cottage rather than Woodbine, but more likely than either is Mrs Shelley's or the place with that awful dog (even though Mrs Shelley and/or the dog died ten years ago).
  
  But then, on reflection, lots of our cottages have very similar names (Bloggs Cottage, Bloggs Cottage on the Green, Bloggsfield Cottage, etc) and in Ambridge most of the people have the same name, so perhaps they are more likely to use house names to be specific whereas we're more likely to use people's names.

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  Posted by Lady Macbeϯh - not without mustard (U550479) on Sunday, 2nd May 2010

  Sun, 02 May 2010 16:01 GMT, in reply to Twin-Lions in message 9
  
  Couldn't do it where I live. All the houses would get mixed up (post occasionally does, anyway).
  
  There are 3 Lodges and two houses with the same name as the hamlet.

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