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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Thursday, 28th October 2010
Hi
Some questions about Borchester Grammar School:
(1) Was this previously a direct grant school?
(2) If it was a direct grant school did Jill object to it opting for independence after the 1975 act? Or was there another school she wanted to keep in the State system?
(3) Whatever the answers to (1) and (2) what is its status now? I don't recall it being mentioned?
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Message 2
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Thursday, 28th October 2010
Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:19 GMT, in reply to JeanPaul_Sartre in message 1
I think Jill was pro comprehensive - apparently (according to the Archers chronology) Shula was part of the save Borchester Grammar campaign much to Jill's chagrin
I think the history of the Borchester schools is a little unclear. Other schools mentioned include Borchester Free & Worcester Road Comprehensive, merged in 1989. Kathy taught at one of these (attended by Lucy).
Borchester Green went by that name in 1990 - could be the result of the above merger (and was either of these two formerly the Grammar?)Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 3
Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Thursday, 28th October 2010
**Educational establishments include the High School(Comprehensive), theSouth Borsetshire Technical College, and Borchester Grammar School(Independant school for boys and girls),**
from Archers New Official Companion 1987
**1989/00/00 Borchester Free School and Worcester Road Comprehensive amalgamated. **
from [Unsuitable/Broken URL removed by Moderator]
**Jill involved herself in local struggles, fighting to keep the village school, for Borchester Grammar School to go Comprehensive, and for a gypsy site to be established in Borchester.**
The Book of the Archers 1994
**In 1989 Borchester Free School was to amalgamate with Worcester Road Comprehensive.**
Book of the Archers 1994
└─Message 86 - posted by ≡Sallyruth(14589711)**, 13 Minutes Ago
1939/00/00 Young Philip wins a place at Borchester Grammar School, the first Archer to receive a full secondary education.
1942/00/00 Christine Archer gets scholarship to Borchester Grammar Scool, finally obtaining HSC with distinction in biology and a credit in chemistry.
1976/00/00 Shula was more interested in Simon Parker, the new editor of the Echo, and in the campaign to stop Borchester Grammar School from going comprehensive. She helped organize a 'Save Borchester Grammar' protest march, to Jill's considerable annoyance.
1977/00/00 Phil was not pleased to hear that Jill had joined an action group to stop Borchester Grammar going independent. Both he and Shula accused her of mixing with some very odd left-wing types.
1989/00/00 Borchester Free School and Worcester Road Comprehensive amalgamated.
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Seems to suggest Borchester Grammar became Borchester Free, and THEN amalgamated with Worcester Road, to become Borchester Green School???Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 4
Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Thursday, 28th October 2010
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Message 5
Posted by flameofthewest (U14483084) on Thursday, 28th October 2010
Reply to Mabel Bagshawe in message 2:
Other schools mentioned include Borchester Free & Worcester Road Comprehensive, merged in 1989. Kathy taught at one of these (attended by Lucy).Ìý
Lucy attended Borchester Grammar School. Kathy was her form teacher (The Book of the Archers).Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 6
Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Thursday, 28th October 2010
Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:12 GMT, in reply to flameofthewest in message 5
Interesting - the Archers Encyclopaedia has Lucy at the Grammar as well, but also mentions Kathy teaching at an un-named school which was merged with another in 1989, in the lead up to her affair with Dave Barry. That fits with the Borchester Free and Worcester Road date!!Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 7
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Thursday, 28th October 2010
Interesting - the Archers Encyclopaedia has Lucy at the Grammar
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But doesn't this clash with:
Educational establishments include the High School(Comprehensive), theSouth Borsetshire Technical College, and Borchester Grammar School(Independant school for boys and girls),**
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Thus Borchester Grammar was independent ?? The decision after the 1975 act was for BG to remove itself from state system???
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Message 8
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Thursday, 28th October 2010
Interesting - the Archers Encyclopaedia has Lucy at the Grammar as well, but also mentions Kathy teaching at an un-named school which was merged with another in 1989,
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Curioser and curioser - it says in Lucy's character summary that Kathy was Lucy's form teacher at Borchester Grammar - which is something I remember
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Message 9
Posted by bob larkin (U2297537) on Thursday, 28th October 2010
Don't worry.
All storylines in TA are thoroughly researched.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 10
Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Look at the dates.
As I say, it seems to suggest the Grammar School WAS savedd, and didn't turn comp until it amalgamated with Worcester Road.
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Message 11
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Hi jps
Borchester Grammar went comprehensive in 1975 - at the time there was a campaign for it to go independent - Jill campaigned against this.
On the subject of the 6th form mentioned else-thread, both Alice and Amy went there - they usually called it "college".
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Message 12
Posted by flameofthewest (U14483084) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Thanks for finding this out Tayler, but in some ways it only muddies the waters further. The Archers Encyclopaedia says that in 1982 Lucy Perks passed her 11-plus and went to Borchester Grammar, but your information suggests that by 1982 the school was already comprehensive!
We were also hoping to find out what's happened to the school since, as it doesn't seem to exist now. Was it one of the schools that merged to form Borchester Green in 1989?Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 13
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Hi flameofthewest
Yes - I see that too from the books I have. I've emailed the archivist, but suspect we'll have to wait till Monday for a response seeing as it's past 6pm!
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Message 14
Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Friday, 29th October 2010
It WAS College, not sixth form
Thursday 10th February
Brian and Jennifer are visiting the South Borsetshire College, where Alice plans to do her A levels.
Sunday 13th February
# Alice has been to a Valentine's do with Bruno, and Brian thinks it will be a re-run of Kate and Roy. Alan tries to reassure him, and to make a case for Borchester College, but Brian becomes more cynical by the minute.
# Meanwhile she wants Brian to recognise that Alice will do best if she's motivated, and agreeing to let her go to the college might be the best method. Brian can scarcely contain his contempt for the idea.
Friday 26th August
Alice has done well in her GCSEs. Brian still wishes she would stay on at her school rather than going to the College but she won't do too badly if she takes after Jennifer.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 15
Posted by _ShropshireLad_ (U10844552) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:12 GMT, in reply to Sallyruth in message 3
**Educational establishments include the High School(Comprehensive), theSouth Borsetshire Technical College, and Borchester Grammar School(Independant school for boys and girls),**
from Archers New Official Companion 1987Ìý
This definitely seems to be the rogue source, as far as I can see.
Kenton said to Jamie just last week on picking him up at Borchester Green that "this used to be the Gramar School in my day, much classier then" as a joke.
The "college" is clearly the descendant of the local sixth forms amalgamated with the FE college, as has happened in so many areas, much to the detriment of any pupils who want to study physics rather than beauty.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 16
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Friday, 29th October 2010
The "college" is clearly the descendant of the local sixth forms amalgamated with the FE college, as has happened in so many areas, much to the detriment of any pupils who want to study physics rather than beauty.
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Well don't know about how the college came to be formed, but I see stereotypes have reared their ugly head again:-
we *do* know that Alice was accepted for an Engineering degree after attending the College. So she *must* have done Physics, Maths too. I can't remember what else she did.
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Message 17
Posted by _ShropshireLad_ (U10844552) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:52 GMT, in reply to JeanPaul_Sartre in message 16
we *do* know that Alice was accepted for an Engineering degree after attending the College. So she *must* have done Physics, Maths too. I can't remember what else she did.Ìý
Yes, you're right, of course she must have done.
I always get shot down on this one, nothing wrong with double science and so on, but I'm afraid I'm still not convinced that bright kids at comprehensive schools without sixth forms have the same opportunities as those at schools that do have, let alone Grammars or Independents.
Particularly when it comes to hard sciences.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 18
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Shropshirelad - I think you are confusing 2 things - GCSE (where double science is an option) and A-levels (where it is not?). Amy (we assume) took separate sciences at GCSE. She attended an independent school - but single sciences would be available at state schools too.
And the reason why 6th forms are not available sometimes at comps is because of demographics - not enough students to make a viable 6th form with a good choice of subjects. So all the comps feed into a single 6th form.
Double science is not new BTW. When I was at school we had something called `General Science' - for non-scientists. Alsp `physics-with-chemistry' was another option. In fact in OHs school the top class did `physics-with-chemistry' and Latin. The second stream did separate Physics, Chemistry but no Latin!!
If you look at the records you see that 6th form colleges perform very well indeed in the A-level stakes.
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Message 19
Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Alice went to South Borsetshire College, because she wanted to do Psychology a-level, which her private school did not offer, I remember.
Maths, Physics, Design Technology and Psychology. Says Keri.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 20
Posted by flameofthewest (U14483084) on Friday, 29th October 2010
With some difficulty I have extracted some relevant information from "The Archers" by William Smethurst (1997).
"Neil Kinnock was not happy. [Shula's] campaign to save Borchester Grammar School horrified him. When Sid and Polly decided to send daughter Lucy to the school he wrote...imploring the writers to present the case for comprehensive education, and let Lucy Perks go to the new High School. [...] Lucy Perks went to the Independent Grammar School, though the education did her no apparent good."
This seems to contradict what Tayler has been told, appearing to suggest that the Grammar School became independent. It is also the only place where I have seen the High School mentioned other than in message 3 of this thread.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 21
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Friday, 29th October 2010
thanks flameofthewest - so that agrees with sallyruths first reference which mentions Borchester GS as being independent. Many direct grant schools became independent..which *must* have happened anyway as Lucy is portrayed as being clever and `passing' an exam to get there. In fact Lucy did start a course at University but dropped out.
That means that Kathy Perks (who was Lucy's teacher) was also at the GS. She was apparently at a *different* school a few years later - but that would have been possible.
So where did Borchester Green came from? Presumably like a Phoenix from the flames of the `free school and the other school which amalgamated with it
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Message 22
Posted by _ShropshireLad_ (U10844552) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:07 GMT, in reply to JeanPaul_Sartre in message 18
I think you are confusing 2 things - GCSE (where double science is an option) and A-levels (where it is not?). Amy (we assume) took separate sciences at GCSE. She attended an independent school - but single sciences would be available at state schools too.Ìý
I'm not confusing things although I am making a somewhat broader point. Which is that schools with sixth forms have much better resourses in terms of staff and laboratories to teach hard sciences properly to under 16s. Anyone who has been to such a school whether independent or not up to GCSE will be miles ahead in the race to get the now obligatory 4 As at A-level.
If you look at the records you see that 6th form colleges perform very well indeed in the A-level stakes.Ìý
Yes because they sit a much higher proportion of Media Studies and so on. They do not perform as well at Physics, Chemistry or Further Maths as comprehensives with sixth forms, let alone the other options.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 23
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Friday, 29th October 2010
6th form colleges:
I wasn't talking about media studies etc. I was talking about hard subjects. However I would have to look it up.
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Message 24
Posted by _ShropshireLad_ (U10844552) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Fri, 29 Oct 2010 22:19 GMT, in reply to JeanPaul_Sartre in message 23
I wasn't talking about media studies etc. I was talking about hard subjects. However I would have to look it up.Ìý
And I was being a little flippant, to be fair. Any establishment can ensure a high pass rate simply by not sitting candidates that aren't going to pass, whatever the subject.
But I genuinely believe from observation of the schools in my local area that bright kids who want to do science properly often miss out if they go to schools without sixth forms.
And that in many ways the arbitrary selction methods of the "better" comprehensive schools are far more socially divisive than ever grammar schools were.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 25
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Friday, 29th October 2010
And that in many ways the arbitrary selction methods of the "better" comprehensive schools are far more socially divisive than ever grammar schools were.
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Well I don't agree that they are more socially divisive than old grammar schools - think `kes'.
However you are right - the results in the leafy suburbs are generally better then in deprived areas.
I'll try to find results for 6th form colleges - however that will not necessarily demonstrate anything as it could be full of students who have come from grammar schools and/or independent schools .
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Message 26
Posted by petal jam (U1466691) on Friday, 29th October 2010
Fri, 29 Oct 2010 23:22 GMT, in reply to _ShropshireLad_
Which selection methods and which schools? In my LEA, past and present, it's distance from home to school. Alice only had choices becuase her parents could buy them for her.
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Message 27
Posted by Dragonfly (U2223700) on Sunday, 31st October 2010
No, not the place, but cannot resist. In the cities there are many so called comprehensives which manage not to have a particularly comprehensive intake.
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Message 28
Posted by petal jam (U1466691) on Sunday, 31st October 2010
Sun, 31 Oct 2010 13:47 GMT, in reply to Dragonfly
Hmmm.. Draggers I think you mean London here and our experience house-hunting and school-hunting in a London borough sent us running for the Hills. IME elsewhere, when we looked at the poverty indicators, we found that the difference between schools was marginal and probably accounted for as selection by property prices. Property prices being, in part, driven by catchment areas for schools of repute. [Only in part.]
For instance: one local primary was perceived to be the bees knees. On closer look, it had placed more children in the Oxbridge-orientated Direct Grant grammar schools back in the parent's generation than others in the area. Well it would - it has a three form intake while the comparator schools were one form intake. Twenty, thirty years after the DG schools went independent, the reputation for 'success' perpetuated in a system which had no selection at 11, in a school which fed into a Community Comp which had mixed ability teaching, no setting or streaming, for Yr 7. The Comp, in turn, was perceived to be the best state secondary school on that side of the city precisely because mixed ability teaching gives everyone a chance to catch up from less exalted primary schools. You could guess the Comp gets a dozen or so kids per year who would in previous generations have gone to top-tier Secondaries up the road, but that would be just guesswork.
Come to the conclusion that, if you can't move the population, you should move the schools and staff.
Sorry Tayler. I'm really off now!¬)Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 29
Posted by Dragonfly (U2223700) on Sunday, 31st October 2010
Well..... our local school (which was unable to take my son, not surprisingly as it was the most oversubscribed school in the country that year) has this year seen a drop in the %age of pupils getting 5+ A*-C grade GCSEs incl Eng and Maths from low 90s to low 70s. This cannot be unconnected to the fact that the year group concerned was the first recruited under a revised admissions policy. The details are mindnumbingly tedious but basically under the old system the school was (perfectly legitimately) picking the more able children, in spite of describing itself as a comprehensive. Now it has less room for manoeuvre to do that.
Not a problem in Borchester, of course.
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Message 30
Posted by petal jam (U1466691) on Sunday, 31st October 2010
Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:10 GMT, in reply to Dragonfly in message 29
We-ell I have no experience of schools in either rural or urban LEAs which select on anything other than distance, apart from a fairly small number which require religious affiliation [almost exclusively RC.] Looked after children and some special needs will have priority. Ergo that appears to me to be the usual system of filling a secondary school. In deep country, like Ambridge, most kids go to any school for which there is a bus.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 31
Posted by Dragonfly (U2223700) on Sunday, 31st October 2010
Banding (in at least two variants), feeder schools, aptitude tests - all in use round here. Quite a few variants on the hoops faith schools can get applicants to jump through too. But all irrelevant to Borchester.
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Message 32
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Monday, 1st November 2010
Hi all
Just trying to clear up the Borchester part of this discussion
In the 70s Borchester Grammar became an independent school (fee paying).
Two other schools, Borchester Free and Worcester Road comp, were amalgamated in 1989 and became Borchester Green.
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Message 33
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 1st November 2010
Thanks Tayler!
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Message 34
Posted by Dragonfly (U2223700) on Monday, 1st November 2010
Thanks, Tayler. For the sake of my own peace of mind I will now assume that BG has since gone bust and no one in Ambridge thought to mention it. It would otherwise have been an obvious place for Daniel to go, and for D&R to consider sending Pip to.
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Message 35
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 1st November 2010
To be absolutely fair Dragonfly (and I hate doing so) Shula would have wanted Daniel to go there because of its strong CofE ethos. And Pip was intending to apply for one of the music scholarships there.
I don't know why it wasn't considered by Lizzie and Nigel for Freddie and Lily tho - I don't recall it being mentioned.
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Message 36
Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Monday, 1st November 2010
from The Archers Encyclopaedia
(Kathy Perks)
She was a teacher of Domestic Science (and sex education) at Lucy Perks's school
(Lucy Gemmell)
Lucy passed her eleven-plus exam and went on to Borchester Grammar
(Kathy Perks)
When, in 1989, Kathy's school was amalgamated with another
and from The Book of the Archers
(Kathy Perks)
In 1989, Borchester Free wastto amalgamate with Worcester Road Comprehensive. Kathy was opposed to the plan.
These show, Borchester Grammar School became Borchester Free School, and amalgamated in 1989 with Worcester Road School.
As we who listened at the time, have written.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 37
Posted by cherrytree (U9175528) on Monday, 1st November 2010
So, Tayler, has Borchester Green got a 6th Form or not?
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Message 38
Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Monday, 1st November 2010
Two days ago in message 11 Ms Tayler wrote:
Hi jps
Borchester Grammar went comprehensive in 1975 - at the time there was a campaign for it to go independent - Jill campaigned against this.
On the subject of the 6th form mentioned else-thread, both Alice and Amy went there - they usually called it "college".
Tayler
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Today she wrote, in message 32:
Hi all
Just trying to clear up the Borchester part of this discussion
In the 70s Borchester Grammar became an independent school (fee paying).
Two other schools, Borchester Free and Worcester Road comp, were amalgamated in 1989 and became Borchester Green.
Tayler
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So which was it that Borchester Grammar did, again? Become fee-paying, or go comprehensive? I find it hard to believe that it did both in quick succession, really.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 39
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Monday, 1st November 2010
I attended a rurally located Grammar School which drew its pupils from a large rural/suburban area. It was technically a CofE school because when it was founded in the 1500s the jobs of schoolmaster and vicar went together. It selected by intellectual ability, regardless of faith otr lack of it.
Lacking the endowment/inclination/guts to go independent it is now a mixed intake school - still called "Grammar" because only for a few years of its history was it selective.
Now it exercises its right to use public money to select in favour of adherents of the CofE. Unfairly in an areas with many Methodists and RCs. My godchildren's parents still in the area attended chuirch regularly until the second gained admission.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 40
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Monday, 1st November 2010
So which was it that Borchester Grammar did, again? Become fee-paying, or go comprehensive?Ìý
Hi Chris
Just to clear up your point in this thread - the first comment was a mistake. The second is the correct version.
(Thanks for the gorilla btw)
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Message 41
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Monday, 1st November 2010
Tayler - Borchester Grammar has been an independent school for over 30 years.
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Message 42
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 1st November 2010
Borchester Grammar became independent. This is *not* mentioned in the on-line archive thingy which ended in 1997. (But the campaign to save it for the state system is.) However it *is* mentioned in another reference book, published in 1987, where Bochester Grammar is `included in the list of school.
Kathy worked at Borchester Grammar in 1982/3 - till?
However in 1989 she was working at either Borchester Free school or Worcester Road which were then amalgamated. This is also listed in the archive thingy.
It *is* possible for her to have changed schools
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Message 43
Posted by cherrytree (U9175528) on Monday, 1st November 2010
Both Shula and Elizabeth have steered clear of Borchester Green. Never has the possibility of Borchester Grammar been mentioned. Is this because this school is still too rough for their children, or have the SWs been unaware of this establishment?
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Message 44
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 1st November 2010
I think they would say Daniel is at Felpersham because of its strong C of E ethos. I think, too, that the SWs may very well have forgotten it!
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Message 45
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Monday, 1st November 2010
Tyler - could we have more info on B Grammar?
When founded; if a CofE, Quaker, Jewish, or wahtever school?Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 46
Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Monday, 1st November 2010
cherrytree, I think that Shula did specifically want somewhere that had something to do with music?
There is no guarantee that either Lily or Freddie would pass an examination to get into a genuinely selective school...
It still seems a shame that Lucy, who had passed that exam and was going there and it could be afforded, had to leave and go to the sixth form college instead. She obviously wasn't a dimbo: she got good enough As to gain a place at Nottingham, not a place noted as being under-subscribed.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 47
Posted by JoinedPeetsBoard_Smeesues_too (U14519481) on Monday, 1st November 2010
It still seems a shame that Lucy, who had passed that exam and was going there and it could be afforded, had to leave and go to the sixth form college instead.
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Obviously what I said about Lucy changing to 6th form college were just guesses. She could have also decided she didn't like being at the school.
There does seem to be a muddle though about 6th form education in the Ambridge area ..
There is no guarantee that either Lily or Freddie would pass an examination to get into a genuinely selective school...
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But Felpersham *is* genuinely selective isn't it? I think that some of the cathedral schools are quite academic - so Freddy might struggle
jps
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Message 48
Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Monday, 1st November 2010
As Kenton said, only the other day
Borchester Green USED TO BE BORCHESTER GRAMMAR.
Where Jamie is NOW, and Kenton and Shula went to ages ago, and Kathy taught at, all her teaching life, and did supply teaching at, both when it was Borchester Grammar, and when it was Borchester Green.
As heard on air.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 49
Posted by _ShropshireLad_ (U10844552) on Monday, 1st November 2010
Mon, 01 Nov 2010 19:20 GMT, in reply to Tayler Cresswell - Host in message 32
Two other schools, Borchester Free and Worcester Road comp, were amalgamated in 1989 and became Borchester Green.Ìý
But Kenton was teasing Jamie about how much posher it was when it was the grammar school (when he had been there) just the other day.Link to this forum: Borchester Grammar School - who where why and what?
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Message 50
Posted by Dragonfly (U2223700) on Monday, 1st November 2010
It's a cock up, folks. It will never make sense, however much we pore over the details. Time to move on?
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