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Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Saturday, 1st January 2011
It's about one or two bits of the new website, and a suggestion for making it useful.
Ambridge Map is using chunks from the old Characters profiles as text in various places (Casa Nueva springs to mind). These should be updated as a matter of priority, since any of them being outdated makes the reliability of all of them dubious.
Who's Who includes only living characters (fair enough). It should be set to default to hiding the pictures of the actors: I DO NOT WANT TO BE SHOWN THESE EVERY TIME I GO TO THIS BIT OF THE SITE AFTER HAVING CLOSED DOWN THE COMPUTER AND STARTED IT AGAIN. (Yes, I am shouting: this used to be possible on the old board, and that it is no longer apparently possible is disgraceful.)
Timeline includes minimal information, under strange headings which are not at all obvious if you want to find one small bit of information, as it might be "what day did Betty die" or "when did Kenton return from abroad for the second time".
The old website had a timeline which, within each decade, was simply a year-by-year "index" of exactly such information: births marriages and deaths, characters' departures and arrivals, major incidents within the village.
Please may we have something like that back again, ideally brought up to date (which the old one had not been for some time "because it would be brought up to date when we change the board" -- time for that to happen, please! And *NOT* with clever-clever drag-and-click or open-a-new-page-to-discover-it-doesn't-say-what-you-want-to-find-out: just searchable text.
Like any half-decent index of any sort, in fact. I know that Archers books such as the Miscellany may lack indices and be useless for reference as a result, but cannot the website be a tiny bit more professional than that?
And whilst I am at it: why do we have this St Vitus' Dance effect on the Who's Who when we press, say, "E", and the whole board jerks down to the names beginning with E, in slow-mo-scrolling? Why does the "search" board with the letters on it then jerk into place? Why not the usual, less eye-straining instant transit as available on every other website I have consulted in the past ten years? Please could this be fixed before I have epilepsy triggered by it or something?
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, in reply to message 1.
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Saturday, 1st January 2011
Thanks Chris
Will pass this on to Keri
Tayler
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Thank you very much, Ms. Tayler.
For you, I have once more the simple request I have been making for a while now:
Please, please can you sort out the sentence which appears at the top of the list of threads in Discuss The Archers:
"This is the place for your opinions on the programmes, past and present, and on issues raised by it."
The programmes are plural; "it" is singular. This really is not a very good impression of literacy to give as the first sight people have of this bit of the board! Lose the "s" at the end of "programmes" and the sentence is no longer a howler.
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Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Monday, 3rd January 2011
Hi Chris
I did correct that once, but it seems the change wasn't picked up by the system. I'll try again.
Thanks!
Tayler
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Bless and save us, it seems to have "taken" this time!
Thank you thank you thank you (ever so many times graciously waving her tail, as was said of I think it was the leopard's Mother in the Just So Stories). That is splendid. Well done ye!
(I am a bit cross with you for shutting that thread just now, in response to a post of mine but before I was able to post to correct the error by which it appeared I was being rude rather than merely observing a strange phenomenon, but this coup quite makes up for any peeve I might have felt.)
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Tayler
For more years than I care to remember, I have quoted the phrase I am relying to, putting it within <<>> marks at the start of my post. Why can I not do that now and can it be fixed. I really object to having my posts changed without my knowledge.
P
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Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Tuesday, 4th January 2011
Hi peterfrancis
This is a feature of the new message board, I'm afraid. If you use square brackets instead, that will work. Or use a space after the first bracket and before the second bracket, I think that also works. Let me try it -
[like this]
or
< like this >
Tayler
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<< use a space after the first bracket and before the second bracket >>
I thought I had, but we'll see! Thanks.
P
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<< I thought I had >>
.....but I hadn't!
P
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Hi Tayler, there's one other thing, which I pointed out before but has not been corrected, and I'm not sure was seen by Keri, so I'd be grateful if you'd pass it on:
The default setting for character pages is to show the actor photo. If someone chooses not to see actor photos, they are then hidden on future visits to those pages, I assume by storing a cookie.
However, this is the wrong way round to do it. For one thing, it means that people must see a photo on their first visit to the character pages. Another, more serious problem, is that when a character page loads, the actor photo is loaded and displayed, and then hidden after the page has finished downloading. On all but the fastest broadband connections (and possibly even on those), the photo is visible for a short time while the page downloads - easily long enough for the brain to take in and process the visual information, ie to see what the actor looks like.
Many people really do not want to see the photos of actors, and the 'hide photo' setting was introduced to recognise this preference, but it is next to useless if the photos are shown for a brief time while the character page loads. Please get this fixed.
Thanks a lot.
'Ö'
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Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Friday, 7th January 2011
Hi Badge
I'll ask Keri about the photos.
Tayler
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Thank you, Ms Tayler -- I am with Leaping Badger on this one, wanting the default to be "pictures hidden" rather than "pictures displayed", and in fact I have mentioned it whenever I have been asked to fill in the questionnaire of comment on the website -- that questionnaire, incidentally, does not allow you to escape back to the page where it was displayed for you to agree or not that you had five minutes to spare for the questionnaire, but forces you to go back to the message board by another route than "back", which seems to me to be poor design.
(But "what is one ha'porth of questionnaire among all this monstrous deal of dreck?", seriously to misquote the Bard...)
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Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Tuesday, 18th January 2011
Tayler, there's another thing, which is about the message board this time, but I thought the best place to put it would be on this thread rather than starting a new one.
In the thread list view (of eg DTA, The Bull), not only are fewer characters of thread titles displayed than was previously the case, but now if a title runs over the limit of characters, the end of the title is delete right up to the first word space before the limit is reached. This sometimes has fairly drastic consequences, such as in the case of this thread - - which appears in the thread list as 'Question for ...'.
It would of course be better if more characters per thread title (and beginning of the first post) were displayed in the thread list, as was the case before the revamp, but even if the designers refuse to do this, it would make sense to display the full number of characters set in the limit, even if that resulted in part of a word being displayed. It would make quite a few thread titles make more sense - in this case, if it said 'Question for self-empl ...', it would give readers a far better clue as to the subject of the thread. This wouldn't cause any display problems, because it would still be displaying within the character limit.
Does that make sense? Hope so.
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Makes sense to me and I concur, FWIW.
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Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Wednesday, 19th January 2011
Hi Badge
Yes, that makes sense. I'll pass it on.
Thanks
Tayler
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Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Sunday, 23rd January 2011
There's an even funnier example now: a thread entitled 'ML advice...varnishing/protecting a hand painted mural.', which appears on the thread view as 'ML'.
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Posted by Vicarshusband (U6051871) on Monday, 24th January 2011
With apologies for shoving in, can I add something - the "Who's who" seems to be sorted by Christian name of the character, not surname. That is just wrong, surely?
VH
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Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Monday, 24th January 2011
Why so? Many characters are known better by their first name than surname, so it seems logical to arrange them first first name, to make it easier for people to find the person they're looking for.
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Posted by Vicarshusband (U6051871) on Monday, 24th January 2011
Maybe I'm just being tidy minded or something!
VH
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Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011
Hi Vicarshusband
Badger is right about why they're organised by first name - for example, people might not know that Jazzer's surname is McCreary or that Nic's is Hanson as they don't get mentioned often on air.
Tayler
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Posted by Vicarshusband (U6051871) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011
Tayler, Badger
I was going to say, I think I must have the soul of a librarian - but I won't, as I wouldn't want to offend any librarians.
Thanks
VH
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