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Message 1.Â
Posted by Vicarshusband (U6051871) on Saturday, 15th January 2011
Will there be an inquest into Nigel's death (on the programme, I mean, not here!)
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Message 2
Posted by Dragonfly (U2223700) on Sunday, 16th January 2011
Yes, mentioned on air. It's already been opened and adjourned. Hope we get to hear it when it resumes, with some very awkward questions for David.
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Message 3
Posted by bob larkin (U2297537) on Sunday, 16th January 2011
No awkward questions.
Accidental death. -
Message 4
Posted by taddydogman (U13374770) on Monday, 17th January 2011
But surely the coroner would want to know why Nigel went up on the roof after his wife had specifically asked him not to? The only person who can answer this question will be David and unless he tells an outright lie he will surely be held to be responsible in some way for Nigel's death. I have no knowledge of the law in this field but perhaps a verdict of death by misadventure would be more appropriate.
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Message 5
Posted by dickie (U2267358) on Monday, 17th January 2011
I don't see this.
Nigel was a mentally competent adult who knew the risks - he could always have said no. -
Message 6
Posted by neveronsaturday (U14715940) on Monday, 17th January 2011
I recall he was "squiffy". It was late on the day of much merriment and he was suposed to be off to find more Champers....was he sober, and therefore mentally competent?
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Message 7
Posted by taddydogman (U13374770) on Monday, 17th January 2011
But David put Nigel on the spot by coming out with his remark "Are you a man or a mouse?". As I recall, Nigel had made it clear that he didn't want to go up on to the roof and, had it not been for David's provocative comment, he would have chosen to stay safely indoors.
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Message 8
Posted by RosalindF (U11043377) on Monday, 17th January 2011
When was the Inquest held into Nigel's death?
I thought that they'd not had it yet unless I've missed that episode
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Message 9
Posted by Dragonfly (U2223700) on Monday, 17th January 2011
It's been opened (off air) and will resume at some unspecified date in the future. I assume the first part of the hearing established identity and the main part will look at the cause of death and whether there was any wrongdoing. I'm not getting my hopes up too much that we will hear David being hauled over the coals, but that's what I'd like.
'So let me just see if I have understood this properly, Mr Archer. You are the Chairman of the Ambridge Parish Council and now also the Chairman of the local branch of the National Farmers' Union. You are a director of Brookfield Farm Ltd and a father of three. Your brother-in-law, Mr Nigel Pargetter, was the owner of Lower Loxley Hall and its estates and managing director of Lower Loxley Enterprises Ltd. He was a father of two. You have both been involved in many voluntary activities over the years for the benefit of the wider community. It might therefore be assumed that you were both responsible men of some common sense. You have both been trained in health and safety principles in your capacity as employers and business proprietors. You yourself have particular cause to be aware of these issues because of the fatal accident some 20 years ago involving your employee Jethro Larkin, when a tree branch you were cutting with a chainsaw fell on his head and killed him. The NFU has, of course, frequently been involved in campaigns to raise awareness of the importance of farm safety and to reduce the shockingly high rate of accidents on the farm.
On 2nd January 2011 you and Mr Pargetter were both 51 years old. You were attending a family party at Lower Loxley Hall during which both of you consumed a fairly large amount of alcohol. Another family member, Miss Helen Archer, had been rushed into hospital earlier in the afternoon and you had just heard that she had given birth to a healthy baby boy, which naturally came as a great relief to the whole family. Mrs Elizabeth Pargetter had asked her husband to go down to the cellar for champagne to toast mother and baby. However, you and Mr Pargetter went instead onto the roof to remove a banner which he had tied up there the previous week, with the help of your brother, Mr Kenton Archer, who was living at Lower Loxley. Mr Pargetter, for reasons that have not been explained, did not ask Mr Kenton Archer or one of the Lower Loxley staff members or volunteers to help him get this banner down during working hours, or at the very least during the hours of daylight. Instead, he had asked you to do so earlier, during the party. You had originally said that you would come back and do it on the next day, but now changed your mind and suggested going up onto the roof before getting the champagne. It was pitch dark and there was a high wind. The tiles were frosty and slippery. None of this gave you pause. Mr Pargetter was, by your own account, unsure whether this was a good idea and pointed out that Mrs Pargetter had specifically asked the two of you not to go on the roof. You urged Mr Pargetter to ignore his wife's views and get the job over. I believe the exact phrase you used was... [rustle, rustle] ah yes... "Are you a man or a mouse?" This appears to have persuaded Mr Pargetter to engage in this risky venture against his better judgement.
As we all know, Mr Pargetter fell to his death from the roof some minutes later, falling some 60 metres, as measured by the scream, which was fortuitously recorded by the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú.
I put it to you that you bear a considerable load of responsibility for your brother-in-law's death, Mr Archer. What is your response to this suggestion?' -
Message 10
Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Monday, 17th January 2011
"Well, as Jill, Jill Archer, that is, my mum, you know, always said when we were little,~ "If he told you to go and jump off the roof, would you do it?" "
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Message 11
Posted by Burgate (U13829366) on Monday, 17th January 2011
Excellent post Dragonfly!
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Message 12
Posted by Vicarshusband (U6051871) on Monday, 17th January 2011
Well put, Dragonfly...
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Message 13
Posted by rick_yard_withdrawn (U14573092) on Monday, 17th January 2011
100% out of 100 dragonfly!!
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