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Why did Pat leave out garlic?
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Message 1.聽
Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011
I'd never heard that it's consider bad, or even at all problematic for breastfed babies. (Hot chilli or curry can be, but not garlic).
I ate it normally when feeding my two - it's actually considered a good supplement to the diet. (I wouldn't have thought Pat would be a stereotypical 1940s housewife and be "scared of garlic, as being dangerously foreign.)
Has anyone ever heard of this, please? -
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Posted by JennyDarling Long Gone (U250754) on Thursday, 27th January 2011
Although I had my dauughter in the non garlic eating era of the 60s, we were advised when breastfeeding to avoid strongly flavoured food such as curry and onions, as it would result in very niffy nappies.
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Message 3
Posted by Marmalade Drizzle (U2239190) on Friday, 28th January 2011
gar;lic does flavour the milk but babies don't seem to mind and it doesn't do them any harm.
I can remember repeatedly catching a whiff of garlic when ED was a baby and I found that it was on his breath and i had had pizza and garlic bread the night before.
Anyway - I thought garlic was good for you (or is that fad over now?) -
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Posted by Seveek (U13636812) on Friday, 28th January 2011
Apparently, there is a good deal of research which suggests that garlic is beneficial during pregnancy. It finds that taking garlic during pregnancy cuts the risk of developing pre-eclampsia and boost the weight of babies in the womb.
Other studies in 1991 showed that babies nurse better when their mothers have eaten garlic. One experiment found that the babies spent longer attached to the breast as a result.
I am not sure how reliable this information is but it can be found in published scientific articles in the Paediatric official journals.
Helen should have found the many positive points it in her research and I found no negative ones. -
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Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Friday, 28th January 2011
But Helen is NO LONGER PREGNANT!
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Message 6
Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Friday, 28th January 2011
Sallyruth, Seveek said "Other studies in 1991 showed that babies nurse better when their mothers have eaten garlic. One experiment found that the babies spent longer attached to the breast as a result", so I think it's ALL RIGHT.
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Message 7
Posted by Sallyruth (U14589711) on Friday, 28th January 2011
This was a study of pregnancy!
It means, "If a pregnant woman HAS EATEN garlic, then gives birth, her baby will nurse better," doesn't it?
Not, start eating it after you give birth.
Like pregnant women eating sardines makes the resulting child 4% more clever. -
Message 8
Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Friday, 28th January 2011
It was Mennella and Beauchamp, in 1991.
Here's a summary of the experiment - (Excuse the American spelling - it was from an article by Gwen Dewar, Ph.D, who's American) "When you鈥檙e pregnant, breastfeeding, or bottle-feeding, your child鈥檚 attitude towards broccoli might seem like a far-off thing.
But food flavors are transmitted through the placenta and breast, and research suggests that babies can detect them.
Babies often like these 鈥渟econd hand鈥 flavors. One experiment gave breastfeeding moms garlic pills and then measured how long their 3-month old infants suckled at the breast (Mennella and Beauchamp 1991).
Between 1.5 and 3 hours after the women had swallowed the pills, the garlic odor of their breast milk reached a peak and the babies noticed. Compared with babies whose mothers took placebo pills, the 鈥済arlic babies鈥 spent more time attached to the breast.
So long before your baby鈥檚 first attempts to eat solid food, she has already encountered a variety of flavors."
Seems logical. Unless you know different, of course. -
Message 9
Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Monday, 31st January 2011
Onions, or leeks, or garlic, or all three, *may* (I emphasise that word) cause nappy-rash if a baby happens to be sensitive to them, and a doctor or health visitor consulted about persistent nappy-rash in a breast-fed child may suggest cutting these foods one at a time from the breast-feeding mother's diet in order to see whether the rash clears up as a result.
I know this because our second child was malaffected by onions, and the family ate onion-free food for slightly under nine months -- and waited eagerly for her first tooth to appear, that being the point at which babies of our family were deemed to be ready to move on to solids.
So perhaps Pat has come across this and is taking no risks. -
Message 10
Posted by littlecandle (U2651900) on Monday, 31st January 2011
I fed Little Candlet till he was thirteen months exactly whilst eating heroic amounts of garlic, and never smelled it on his breath.
However, once, having eaten home made creme anglaise (I was a little enthusiastic with the vanilla pod) for several days I could smell it not on his breath, but on his little brow. Basically, he was sweating custard. Put me off it for a while.
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Message 11
Posted by Spartacus (U38364) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
sweating custard聽
There's an euphemism waiting to be coined, if ever I heard one. -
Message 12
Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
I'd never connected it with beastliness, Peet, posted as it was by the radiant Littlecandle, but now you've made me see it in a different way.
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Message 13
Posted by littlecandle (U2651900) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
Please don't see it in a different way, darling C-B. Beastliness was never further from my thoughts.
To be honest, I'm not entirely sure 'sweating custard' /has/ any beastly connotations! Honi soit qui mal y pense [Mods: evil to him who evil thinks ]
lc - officially known as Radiant
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