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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 24th June 2011
Tayler bach
In a recent post complimenting Ginslinger Redux for his wisdom I signed off with an apposite Welsh aphorism.
Ginslinger slung it into google and responded with a reference to this handy (and bilingual) list of welsh proverbs.
So I replied with one of them.
Both my posts have been deleted for using "foreign"
Now I accept that it would be inappropriate for this board to have whole posts in Welsh, as I realise that some people do not know the language. But surely there is room to accommodate a few words, as with a Latin tag or whatever?
The rules say "Welsh and Gaelic may be used where expressly stated"
So it will be OK if I expressly state "this is Welsh".
Peint o gwrw? Pint of beer?
Actually OI it says "where marked" which is why very few understand what the rule is.
There used to be a Welsh board, that is where it was 'marked' that posting in Welsh was OK.
, in reply to message 2.
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 24th June 2011
Actually flea it says what I said. Maybe they have attempted tp clarify?
<quote>"We reserve the right to fail comments which...
Are written in anything other than English - Welsh and Gaelic may be used where expressly stated."
For more information about the House Rule your comment broke, please visit -
</quote>
There is a link to this
<quote>
Are not in English
Contributions which are not in English are not allowed except on designated message boards intended for discussions in Welsh or Gaelic. This is because we have to ensure posts can be checked and to ensure that all members of the message boards understand the conversation. For more information on moderation please visit our moderation FAQ page.
Some commonly understood words and short phrases may be allowed at our discretion.
In addition to this, posts with heavy text speak or unintelligible language such as codes are also not allowed as this may disrupt the natural flow of conversation. </quote></quote>
I was claiming short phrase discretion!
Put that in the popty ping and nuke it.
Ah, I was quoting from the House Rules - having never had an email about language.
Was the short phrase 'commonly understood'? (Being Welsh I doubt it.)
(I don't have a popty ping, I have a microwave, snork.)
, in reply to message 4.
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 24th June 2011
flea - Welsh people CAN have a "ffwrn meicrodon" (furnace microwave) but "popty ping" (oven ping) is surely superior and should be used by all?
I attached the understanding only to the words!
"Gorau arf; arf dysg
"Strongest weapon; weapon (of) learning)"
Makes a good school motto!
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Friday, 24th June 2011
Hi OI
Short phrases in Welsh can be allowed if you provide a translation for the mods. They usually check them, but I would imagine that not many mods are bi-lingual, so some use of Welsh would be failed if they couldn't verify the meaning.
Hope that helps,
Tayler
OI, the phrase 'where expressly stated' means '[on message boards/blogs] where [it is] expressly stated [that Welsh/Gaelic may be used]'. It doesn't mean 'where the poster expressly states that they have posted in Welsh/Gaelic'.
As Tayler says, this is because mods need to be able to understand posts to check whether or not they contravene the house rules. Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú will only employ mods who speak Welsh/Gaelic on spaces dedicated to those languages, for obvious cost reasons.
The following text, which you quoted in your message, makes this absolutely clear.
Contributions which are not in English are not allowedÂ
– and the crucial bit –
except on designated message boards intended for discussions in Welsh or Gaelic.Â
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Bearing in mind that (as a wise man once reminded us) in a very real sense, the casserole is all around us, I can do no better than use one of those phrases - Esmwyth gwsg, potes maip.
(Turnip broth gives restful sleep)
, in reply to message 1.
This posting has been hidden during moderation because it broke the in some way.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 5th February 2012
Thread revives after 6 months and already blanked out!
Did anyone see it?
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