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Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Friday, 9th December 2011
Presumably they have acquired it through "right to buy" since otherwise I would have thought they couldn't make structural changes without permission,
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by rick_yard_withdrawn (U14573092) on Saturday, 10th December 2011
Presumably they have acquired it through "right to buy" since otherwise I would have thought they couldn't make structural changes without permission,Â
I don't think they have/do. Only Susan was so upwardly mobile to do this, hence the Georgian Door.
Probably it's owned by a Housing Association now - absorbed into some horrible regional conglomerate by now called "Heart of England Forward" or some such....
, in reply to message 2.
Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Sunday, 11th December 2011
In which case I am not sure Neil can' just take it on himself to put in a shower room etc. I worked for a HA(very good one - had people grumbling that we were forcing new kitchens on them evil landlords that we were), But it is a while ago..
, in reply to message 1.
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Monday, 12th December 2011
Hi GR
The Horribin residence is rented from a housing association.
Tayler
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Monday, 12th December 2011
Hi GR
The Horribin residence is rented from a housing association.
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Do the people scripting Neil's conversion work know that?
Will the several weeks required to get (or not get) permission to convert the pantry into a downstairs bathroom be considered?
Will consent be sought to Sharon and the brats moving in?
, in reply to message 5.
Posted by Reggie Trentham (U2746099) on Monday, 12th December 2011
It's going to get pretty crowded if Sharon and her lot are moving is as well as Tracy and family.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Monday, 12th December 2011
It's going to get pretty crowded if Sharon and her lot are moving is as well as Tracy and family.Â
OOPS !
I expect the said Housing Association will find accommodation for Tracy if she is in need.
Dear Ms Tayler,
The Ambridge Map is quite clear on this subject:
"No 6 The Green
"This ramshackle council house has been home for many years to the disreputable Horrobin family."
Council house.
If it is not a council house (and wasn't, presumably, when this new shiny website was written adnd put up) perhaps that ought to be changed? please? Can you do the usual telling people thing so it can be added to the list of things that haven't yet been done?
(Yes, I am getting a bit cynical.: Peter Johnson, born 1965, was still adopted as a baby in 1996.)
And in the Timeline,
"Scruff Saved
"The Snells took in Scruff the dog after an accident at The Stables."
is still in July 2006, when that happened in July 2005.
, in reply to message 9.
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Saturday, 7th January 2012
Dear Ms Tayler,
The Ambridge Map is quite clear on this subject:
"No 6 The Green
"This ramshackle council house has been home for many years to the disreputable Horrobin family."
Council house.
If it is not a council house (and wasn't, presumably, when this new shiny website was written adnd put up) perhaps that ought to be changed? please? Can you do the usual telling people thing so it can be added to the list of things that haven't yet been done?Â
Chris I fear you dwell little amongst the common people.
Many, if not most, councils have transferred management and/or ownership of their council houses to Housing Associations, so the two are interchangeable unless legal precision is required by the context.
No6 is clearly a council house, however now managed.
The Official Companion (Smethurst) (1985) is also clear
"The council housesare also on the far side of the Green. They are semi-detached and each has a good vegetable plot at the back and a flower garden at the front. The Horobins (sic) live at No.1 (where the flower garden is used to park expired Morris Marinas, rusty old Vauxhalls, and oil-leaking Renaults). At number six ('Dunroamin') live Neil and Susan Carter with their daughter Emma."
, in reply to message 12.
Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Saturday, 7th January 2012
Interesting; so the inaccuracy started even sooner than we might have supposed it would have. The 6 and the 1 had been transposed or reversed or in some other way altered, by the time of the Archers Encyclopaedia of 2001. There I find the entry for Ivy Horrobin, who is stated to be part of "the Horrobin clan during their years at No. 6, The Green", and that for Neil Carter which says "the Carters moved to No. 1, The Green." Susan's entry in that book says they lived "five doors away from the rest of Susan's family".
The map here (which is *not* a source I would ever wish to rely on unsupported) says if you click the dot on 1, The Green
No 1 The Green
This former council house was originally bought by Neil and Susan Carter under the "right to buy" legislation.
In 2008, it became a "buy-to-let" investment for Will Grundy.Â
and under 6, The Green (on the other side of the road, not five doors along, so that has been changed even more recently) it says
No 6 The Green
This ramshackle council house has been home for many years to the disreputable Horrobin family.Â
, in reply to message 13.
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Saturday, 7th January 2012
When the Green houses were being transferred from the council to the housing association discrepancies were discovered in the numbering used on different records. Changes arose when these were corrected.
Tayler - Who do I send my fee note for this solution to?
, in reply to message 14.
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Saturday, 7th January 2012
When the Green houses were being transferred from the council to the housing association discrepancies were discovered in the numbering used on different records. Changes arose when these were corrected.
Tayler - Who do I send my fee note for this solution to? Â
Will a pint of Shires do you OI?
Chris, I'll pass on your comments to Keri, thanks,
Tayler
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Saturday, 7th January 2012
Will a pint of Shires do you OI?
Chris, I'll pass on your comments to Keri, thanks,
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Very nicely.thank you
See you in The Bull at about 8:42 ?
Steve
, in reply to message 12.
Posted by rick_yard_withdrawn (U14573092) on Saturday, 7th January 2012
The Official Companion (Smethurst) (1985) is also clear
"The council housesare also on the far side of the Green. They are semi-detached and each has a good vegetable plot at the back and a flower garden at the front. The Horobins (sic) live at No.1 (where the flower garden is used to park expired Morris Marinas, rusty old Vauxhalls, and oil-leaking Renaults). At number six ('Dunroamin') live Neil and Susan Carter with their daughter Emma." Â
Don't know what the website picture is like now (won't "load") but the previous one showed houses of a design where the outer walls are having to be re-built all over the country due to them being made with pre-fabricated sections. Has this come up on the programme?
, in reply to message 17.
Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Saturday, 7th January 2012
I don't know, but Iam fairly certain that all of the houses in The Green were built at the same time, and No 3 has been bought and refurbished by Amside and is now let to Elona and her family, so I don't think the houses can be of a sort that is having to be reconstructed or Matt would probably have noticed.
Maybe that is why they have taken down the pictures for the time being.
When the website was "improved" they introduced new pictures of all the dwellings which look nothing like the previous representations. The new version of Lower Loxley is particularly ludicrous, nothing like the huge sprawling mansion with several wings that we know it really is. (And they even moved it on the map to the outskirts of Ambridge!). The pictures on the website are not to be trusted at all.
At least Nos. 1 and 6 the Green merely swapped places, the Cat and Fiddle was on the move for several years.
, in reply to message 19.
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 8th January 2012
MY LoLo is Elizabethan, not that Georgian pile.
Lower Loxley was noted in TBotA (published in 1994, before most of the "improvements" were perpetrated) as having the date 1702 inscribed above its door, so I suppose it may just barely get called a rambling Queen Anne mansion with several wings. William and Mary came before Anne, and I can't remember what their period's architecture is called, but Lower Loxley is presumably that, anyhow.
I can't seem to see today any of the pictures which were with the map until recently: if I click on the places, I just get a blurb, no illustration. If I try to get to them from anywhere else I just get a bit of the map to go with the blurb. Are they "improving" things again? Oh woe!
Hey, maybe they have noticed how utterly absurd some of the places had been made to look (I was particularly struck by how awful The Lodge was, myself) and are going to get someone who knows a bit abot architecture to do new pictures.
, in reply to message 21.
Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 8th January 2012
1702 would look more like my pic than the image on the website, which is 50-100 years later, at least.
, in reply to message 21.
Posted by Ginslinger Redux (U14830013) on Wednesday, 11th January 2012
I think it is called "William and Mary" .....
, in reply to message 23.
Posted by Chris Ghoti (U10794176) on Wednesday, 11th January 2012
I was assuming that would be too simple, Ginners!
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