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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
I'm confused.
Surely the poo lagoons are at BriF not BroF ?
So BroF pooh lives in badger-proof concrete slurry pits?
But if BroF needs to shift some pooh why can't it go in BriF lagoons?
It is because it is not certified organic pooh?
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Posted by Mustafa Grumble (U8596785) on Friday, 16th December 2011
All dairy farms (or indeed any farm housing livestock over winter) need somewhere to hold their slurry - slurry lagoons/pits.
Definitely could not get Brokefailed Farm slurry into Bodge Farm slurry lagoons - if any non-organic slurry went on to the fields, or leaked, the Soil Association's certification could be lost.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 16th December 2011
All slurry is organic.
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Posted by Mustafa Grumble (U8596785) on Friday, 16th December 2011
It may be organic matter, but it's not necessarily Organic.
My understanding is that a cow that has been fed on non-Organic feedstuffs, or which has received non-Organically Approved medication, will not produce Soil Association approved Organic slurry.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 16th December 2011
I don't like to grumble (your job!) but why did they not invent a word - luddifood say - rather than misuse one that exists?
Presumably it contains various inorganic chemicals in all that organic stuff.
If so I suppous this applies to "ordinary" and "organic" - although probably less in the latter.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Presumably it contains various inorganic chemicals in all that organic stuff.Â
To a chemist, perhaps.
But to the "organic" lobby I think anything suitably derived IS "organic".
They certainly sell "organic" salt.
All slurry is organic. Â Deep,deep philosophy.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 16th December 2011
All dairy farms (or indeed any farm housing livestock over winter) need somewhere to hold their slurry - slurry lagoons/pits.Â
Anyway, Mustafa (presume you've seen the FO note?) - as you are expert - why do they need to drain the Augean lagoon? Why not work back from where it is emerging?
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Posted by Mustafa Grumble (U8596785) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Am no expert (& incidentally, what is an "FO Note" when at home?), but given there are (a) hugely strict rules about handling slurry; (b) severe fines for spreading it on fields at the wrong time of year & in the wrong weather; (c) severe fines for leaks that pollute waterways; and (d) many risks in approaching the lagoons too closely (though sadly Ruth has not yet toppled in), great caution needs to be exercised, I imagine.
A surprising number of farm deaths occur in and around slurry lagoons, and given the vast quantities of liquid sh... you know what, I guess there is no way that you can feasibly damn-off safely the area around the leak & rebuild the retaining wall and bank without part-emptying the lagoon first.
That's my surmise anyway. I don't work for TA so cannot class myself an hagricultural hexpert ...
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Foreign Office. - it's an apparently genuine memo about a Turkish diplomat called "Mustafa K*nt"
"In these straightened times we all feel that, but it takes a Turk to put it on his business card"
There are any number of techniques which would allow part of a pooh lagoon to be coffered off for repair.
But the obvious precaution is to have a bund wall there in advance.
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