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Message 1.Â
Posted by Feral Techie (U14699583) on Monday, 30th January 2012
The RSS feed links to (which is consistent with the usual naming scheme), but that URL returns 404.
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Message 2
Posted by joe (U13868420) on Tuesday, 31st January 2012
Podcast and LA *both* down as of now.
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Message 3
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Wednesday, 1st February 2012
Hi both - apologies for the disruption in service. The podcast is there now.
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Message 4
Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Wednesday, 1st February 2012
That's good, Tayler. If you get a chance could you please ask them to go back to naming them the old way which would sort properly? Some smartphones won't sort by date, only alphabetically.
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Message 5
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Wednesday, 1st February 2012
Hi JustJanie
As far as I know they are being re-named back to the way they were, but I'll check it's still happening,
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Message 6
Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Wednesday, 1st February 2012
No, not if you use iTunes. It still comes up as 'Archers: Tuesday Jan 31' and some people's smartphones won't sort by date received, but sort by that name, alphabetically. The name of the file used to be something like this: 20120131 and then title, so it would sort by date as it started with a number.
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Message 7
Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Thursday, 2nd February 2012
Oh, hooray! The latest one downloaded into iTunes as: Archers: 2012-02-01 Wednesday. That should do the trick. Thanks. Can't think why they changed in the first place.
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Message 8
Posted by Feral Techie (U14699583) on Thursday, 2nd February 2012
JJ - that's downright interesting! I think this may be something specific to the way it's supplied to iTunes, because the "Archers: (day) (month) (date)" that you describe doesn't show up either in the filename (which might be "<LINK href="http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/archers/archers_20120201-1920a.mp3"">http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/archers/archers_20120201-1920a.mp3"</LINK>) or in the ID3v2 tags, which look like this:<BR /><BR />TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): The Archers<BR />TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Soloist(s)): Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Radio 4<BR />COMM (Comments): ()[eng]: Neil faces disaster and David comes clean.<BR />USLT (Unsynchronized lyric/text transcription): ()[eng]: <BR />TCON (Content type): Podcast (255)<BR />TIT2 (Title/songname/content description): Archers: 2012-02-01 Wednesday<BR />TYER (Year): 2012<BR />TCOP (Copyright message): 2012 (C) Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú 2012<BR />APIC (Attached picture): ()[, 3]: image/jpg, 83028 bytes<BR /><BR />Hope this is of some help to Tayler.
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Message 9
Posted by Feral Techie (U14699583) on Thursday, 2nd February 2012
Bother, extra line-wrapping made that look a bit silly. The ID3v2 tags are:
TALB (Album/Movie/Show title): The Archers
TPE1 (Lead performer(s)/Soloist(s)): Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Radio 4
COMM (Comments): ()[eng]: Neil faces disaster and David comes clean.
USLT (Unsynchronized lyric/text transcription): ()[eng]:
TCON (Content type): Podcast (255)
TIT2 (Title/songname/content description): Archers: 2012-02-01
Wednesday
TYER (Year): 2012
TCOP (Copyright message): 2012 (C) Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú 2012
APIC (Attached picture): ()[, 3]: image/jpg, 83028 bytes -
Message 10
Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Thursday, 2nd February 2012
Thanks for looking into that, Feral Techie. It should all work OK now if they keep doing what they did for yesterday's episode (fingers crossed).
I just did a little experiment. I looked at the properties in Windows 7 of the file for Tuesday's episode that iTunes saved in my 'iTunes Music' folder and the title for Tueday's was Archers: Tuesday Jan 31 and the name was Archers_ Tuesday Jan 31.mp3.
For Wednesday's episode the title was Archers: 2012-02-01 Wednesday and the name was Archers_ 2012-02-01 Wednesday.mp3
If you save the Podcast file manually by right-clicking, then the name of the file is different - for Tuesday it's archers_20120131-1920a.mp3 and for Wednesday it's archers_20120201-1920a.mp3 but the title remains unchanged.
So it seems that iTunes renames the file but that's not what causes the problem. What causes the problem is that iTunes uses the TITLE to name the file in your iTunes Library.
If you look on the Podcast page you'll see that what's written in green letters for Wednesday (not a link) is 2012-02-01 Wednesday and for Tuesday is Tuesday Jan 31 - which mirrors what they are now using for the title. I shouldn't have thought they needed to do that; they could write what they wanted in the green letters as it has nothing to do with the properties of the file.
Oh well, I'm just glad it's working OK now, though to be sure I should wait till I get two episodes with the new titles to make sure they sort properly. -
Message 11
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Thursday, 2nd February 2012
Hi both
I think they *should* sort correctly from now as I believe they only changed the date format back to what it was - and adding in the day at the end to help those looking for a specific day's epidsode.
Tayler -
Message 12
Posted by JustJanie - Fairweather Strider (U10822512) on Thursday, 2nd February 2012
Thanks, Tayler. I'll report back if there are any problems when a few more episodes have downloaded since the change(back).
Cheers,
Janie
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