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Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Monday, 16th April 2012
There is apparently an old thread that says Ambridge Hall has six bedrooms.
So how come there is no room for Leonie when they have B&B guests in 2 rooms?
This jarred with me too. Always ready to suspend belief for 12 minutes a night, but........
Still,I've been away on hol and hey! Council cutbacks and so on, might have brought down a few bricks of the stately pile?
Gotta be.
These things are 'carefully researched' after all.........
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Posted by Reggie Trentham (U2746099) ** on Monday, 16th April 2012
To be fair we don't know that they've only got two rooms occupied by B&B guests. All we've heard is that they have at least two lots of guests. They may have/be expecting others.
We also don't know to what uses they put all their rooms. But it does seem odd that in a house the size theirs must be that they have difficulty fining room for Leonie.
We DO know that we heard them decide on the radio, that they could only fit out 2 rooms for B&B guests.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Monday, 16th April 2012
In reply to Dinah Shore:
We DO know that we heard them decide on the radio, that they could only fit out 2 rooms for B&B guests.Â
But wasn't that several years ago?
And the two families may have had 3 rooms each.
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Posted by Reggie Trentham (U2746099) ** on Monday, 16th April 2012
Or that they haven't fitted out other rooms since, We don't hear everything on air.
How could they afford to do up 2 more rooms? That we haven't heard about, the cost, the work, the increased business rates/poll tax?
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Posted by Reggie Trentham (U2746099) ** on Monday, 16th April 2012
Who knows? it's something else we haven't been told. May be we should demand that Tayler get the accounts of the business for the past seven years and publish them here.
Don't be ridiculous. She is not part of the production team, how could she do this? And why do you want her to do such a pointless thing? I was pointing out that we know they take in b&b guests, because they need to generate income, and we have not heard that it is so successful that they could afford to double the capacity.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 17th April 2012
Dinah I think Reggie just might have had his tongue in his cheek. HE has a good sense of humour.
we know they take in b&b guests, because they need to generate income, and we have not heard that it is so successful that they could afford to double the capacity.Â
Or that it is so UNsuccessful that they could not, over the years, bring more rooms into use.
If it was as successful as all that I don't think Lynda and Robert would have much time for anything else.
The capacity problem could be connected to the size of the dining room.
Maybe the "study" that Leonie was sleeping in is part of the 6 bedroom count? (When describing a house an estate agent will describe a room as a bedroom even if it has no bed in it.) Why would a couple like Lynda and Robert moving to a largish house put beds in more than a couple of the spare rooms to allow for guests?
If the house was originally built for a doctor I would have thought it more likely that the room now being used as a study would have originally been a consulting room and would have been on the ground floor?
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Posted by Elnora Cornstalk (U5646495) on Tuesday, 17th April 2012
Perhaps they knocked through two rooms, to make en suites for the guest rooms. (That leaves two bedrooms - one is Robert and Lyndie's; the other .. a walk-in closet for Lyndie's clothes? another en-suite?) Didn't Lynda reassure Leonie that she had a bathroom next door, implying, perhaps, a kind of apology that she hadn't her own.
I might have mis-heard this. If so, open apologies. (My mind is in a bit of a spin with RL house problems.)
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 17th April 2012
If the house was originally built for a doctorÂ
Was it purpose built?
Our old style Doctor's house had the surgery as a side extension waiting room and the actual consulting room as one of the house rooms.
It is madness to discuss the rooms in a fictional house!
But as we are doing, highly likely that 1/2 of the original 6 bedrooms would be sacrificed to make en-suites.
Unless the rooms were big enough to put ensuites in to begin with? After all you only need a wc, handbasin and shower. Quite likely in a spacious detached Victorian house I would have thought.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 17th April 2012
Unless the rooms were big enough to put ensuites in to begin with? After all you only need a wc, handbasin and shower. Quite likely in a spacious detached Victorian house I would have thought.Â
Often only a couple of large bedrooms though. Some may be in the attic for staff.
And the proportions of even a large room can be spoiled by partitioning off a bit.
Better to loose one room to provide two luxury bathrooms.
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Posted by Reggie Trentham (U2746099) ** on Tuesday, 17th April 2012
It is madness to discuss the rooms in a fictional house!Â
Quite so OI, the best we can do is speculate on the basis that seven years ago they converted two bedrooms to B&B and that they originally had six bedrooms in total. We have no knowledge of the precise configuration of the house, how they converted the original two rooms and what other rooms they may or may not have converted since. A large number of known unknowns.
Imo that means we can only accept what we were told about their difficulty accommodating Leonie as good coin.
>>>If the house was originally built for a doctor<<<
Gosh, this brings back the memories. When I bought my first house (a 4 bedroom terraced house) my father said (in a disapproving way) "It's large enough to be a doctor's house!"
Ambridge Hall - Leonie having to squeeze into the study - let's not even go there.
Ambridge Hall would have had servants quarters, and even the picturew shows a large house with windows on the 3rd storey.
OK, the rooms might have had stuff in, but sleeping all squeezed up by Lyndas desk?
No.
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Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Tuesday, 17th April 2012
Hi all
On air we've heard that the Snells converted two rooms for B&B guests in 2007.
Tayler
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Tuesday, 17th April 2012
Hi all
On air we've heard that the Snells converted two rooms for B&B guests in 2007.
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Tayler we all know that.
The question is what was occupying the other 4 that there was no bed for Leonie.
1. Lynda + Robert's bedroom
2. Guest bedroom 1
3. Guest bedroom 2
4. Lynda's study
5. Robert's study
6. Boxroom
?
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Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Wednesday, 18th April 2012
Mike, in the way that this MB is renowned for, I beg to make a technical point. If a house of Ambridge Hall's vintage was built with 6 bedrooms, there would already be numerous box-rooms in the attic, and scullery/wash-room, boot and gun rooms or similar that are no linger needed in this modern age.
If Lynda and Robert wished to convert a serviceable bedroom into an additional box-room, well, they must have a *lot* of boxes.
(Morning to you and Rosie, BTW)
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Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Wednesday, 18th April 2012
I don't think Robert and Lynda would have needed to convert bedrooms into studies. There would have been quite sufficient spare rooms
- doctor's consulting room, dispensary, drawing room, morning room, and as CB has pointed out, scullery, laundry room etc as well as attic rooms.
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Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Wednesday, 18th April 2012
On eht other thread about this (I can't find it now) someone reported that when they converted to 2 rooms for B&B guests, Robert insisted that they have one room as a guest room "for when Leonie or Coriander come to stay".
So they do have a spare room for visitors. SWs have goofed again.
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Wednesday, 18th April 2012
So they do have a spare room for visitors. SWs have goofed again.Â
Not necessarily because there was something about people saying on and overlapping so thay may have used the guest room for a b+b.
Most to the point, we are told that there ARE no free rooms, so why can't people just accept that?
And, as an aside, why would they have a folding bed in the study that was "only intended for children"? I can't think of any couple less likely to have enough children visiting to make that sort of arrangement likely. And it can't be for the B&Bs because it's in the study - would they /really/ let a stranger's children be alone in their study all night?
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 19th April 2012
The folding bed is PORTABLE and put in guest rooms as needed when they wish a child in their room.
That makes more sense. I was visualising it as a sofa that folded out...
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Thursday, 19th April 2012
In reply to Peet McKimmie:
That makes more sense. I was visualising it as a sofa that folded out...Â
Ah!
No need for that in AmHall - but they might have brought it from a previous residence?
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Posted by Elnora Cornstalk (U5646495) on Thursday, 19th April 2012
Tonight, Lynda was upset because Leonie had used the guests' bathroom. (Or just guest's? Mr Pickering's)? So no ensuites, then?
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Posted by Auntie Molly (U14110968) on Thursday, 19th April 2012
I assume not, if it had been an ensuite bathroom she'd used, she would have had to go into the guest bedroom in order to access it.
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Posted by Elnora Cornstalk (U5646495) on Thursday, 19th April 2012
And Drunk and maudlin ... The odds on a return visit from the Pickerings wouldn't have been high.
If there were 2 guest bedrooms 5 years ago and they have been so popular with the punters as we have been led to believe, with repeat bookings and being fully booked, I would be astonished if they had not expanded the operation to at least 2 more bedrooms. This is likely to have improved the profitability of the business as it can't cost a huge amount more either in time or money for food, laundry etc but would double their income. Lynda's experience in the hotel trade would inform that decision.
The SWs do occasionally get things wrong but I don't see any proof they have done so here, and it's pleasing to imagine the Snells making a success of their business venture.
I can't see that the SWs view of the situation is any more unsubstantiated than that of MLers who are seeing stables, servants quarters, consulting rooms and box rooms that have never been discussed either.
sk
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Posted by Reggie Trentham (U2746099) ** on Sunday, 22nd April 2012
Listening to the omnibus Robert talked about the second lot of guests using 'the other room'. The inference being that there are only two rooms. After Leonie phone Lynda said, 'all the rooms are full' implying (imo) more than two rooms. And now Robert has said 'all the rooms are taken'.
So most likely more than two rooms.
Listening to the omnibus Robert talked about the second lot of guests using 'the other room'. The inference being that there are only two rooms. After Leonie phone Lynda said, 'all the rooms are full' implying (imo) more than two rooms. And now Robert has said 'all the rooms are taken'.
So most likely more than two rooms.Â
Loenie could stay with Caroline! she certainly has a huge pile!
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Posted by Organoleptic Icon (U11219171) on Sunday, 22nd April 2012
Listening to the omnibus Robert talked about the second lot of guests using 'the other room'.Â
The other room could be the one room they have not yet fully upgraded. But still clean and usable when full.
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