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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Monday, 19th May 2008
Hi all,
Am i alone in thinking that the Chelsea Flower Show is an elitist show which bares no resemblance to normal gardening and gardens ??
I love Mr T, i love all the presenters but i CANT STAND this show or the TV program. These 'creations' are an irrelevance.
DISCUSS !
Mr G
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Message 2
Posted by poshHebeJeebie (U9319867) on Monday, 19th May 2008
Hi Grinch!
I've posted on the DI board to say that I have found this year's Chelsea singularly uninspiring.
The theme seems to be green/cream/white: "understated elegance".
Hmmph! Chelsea is always a bit beyond the real - but cutting edge it isn't. It seems to be all design and no substance. There are very few ideas that would translate into real gardens.
That said - I could admire the Telegraph garden - the quiet reflections of a large pool. But - get real - how long would YOUR waterlilies stay in a serpentine drift across the water?
And pruned hornbeams: that's real inspiration. But would it last???
It's many years since I went to Chelsea - and there's nothing that I've seen to make me want to go again. I think I prefer the village open gardens - real gardens, real people, real design based on serrandipity: 'cos that's what real gardens are! Slips of plants passed on from friends and family: may not fit in a grand design, but much more precious then sculpted gardens.
Having said all that - it's nice to look at (Chelsea, that is) and to enjoy the plants. BUT - I just wish there was more about the plants than the gardens.
So - back to the village gardens, then!
PHJ -
Message 3
Posted by aeroOhnonotagain (U10539671) on Monday, 19th May 2008
I could not agree more I wonder if Mr T had ever heard of the Emperors New Cloths when admiring the large design gardens.Then the usual trip round the world,and of course the Celebrities what would the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú do without them
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Message 4
Posted by copywrite (U3184365) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
I'll be there myself on Saturday and will make judgments based upon seeing the gardens first hand having learned a valuable lesson last year.
I watched the Chelsea 2007 TV coverage and was disappointed when Sarah Eberle's garden was named Best in Show. Then when I visited I was bowled over. It was a captivating design with so much interest and very thoughtful planting. It thoroughly deserved the award.
I don't know what the garden inspired by Venice will look like in reality but I'm hoping it will be better than it appears on TV. I was almost reduced to laughter. The designer was inspired by a city on water, which he seems to have used as the basis for a garden design without plants (at least, the planting is totally subervient to the specially-imported Italian marble which I am sure he didn't carve himself!). But to apply my own lesson, I am saving judgment. Let's see if I u-turn on this on Saturday too! -
Message 5
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
But they are not gardens as most of us know it ! They are designed as works of art and bare no resemberlance to real gardening. Some of then showed last night look rediculous !
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Message 6
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
I've only seen an hour's worth of coverage so far, so I'm not in a great position to comment, but it all seems pretty much the same as usual. There's a lot to be said for actually going to Chelsea, seeing it for yourself and forming your own opinions - except that it's a long way to go for many of us and costs more than twice what the other RHS shows do.
If the Beeb coverage isn't really your cup of tea there's some interesting commentary on the show at:
If only TV was this interesting! -
Message 7
Posted by Kernow Canna (U10937844) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
Begs the question.....Who is the sock???!!!
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Message 8
Posted by copywrite (U3184365) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
On the subject of how much it costs, I have to say I think we should see it as a positive that gardening demands such respect - that people are willing to pay to see great garden design. I'm sure many would say that this only attracts elite audiences who want to be there to be 'seen' - celebs and shallow middle class yobs who know nothing about plants. But for most of the people who visit Chelsea I think the vast majority are very keen gardeners of all levels.
In arguing this, I would also like it to be possible for people who are on low incomes to visit. But I'm afraid that when organizers of events (and participants) are facing a choice between offering something for a high price or half price, the decision is easy. We just have to accept that.
I will be at Chelsea this year and was therefore the first time last year. As an RHS member, my Chelsea ticket only cost £31. Given that I live within an hour of London, my travel is also going to have to be figured into it. But I don't see that £30 is impossibly steep. It equates to 2-3 DVDs or 3 CDs - something most teenagers buy without batting an eye lid - and that would be something I would never spend £30 on unless it was Christmas and they were presents. I choose to spend my £31 on this - just once a year. I think it's worth it. -
Message 9
Posted by toonia (U4760062) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
I totally agree with you copywrite!
I can't help comparing Chelsea with the filmfest in Cannes -I don't hear the French talking about the carbon footprint of all the people who have flown over or the cost of the posh frocks and jewelry sported by the "starlets"!
The French say "look at us, this is what we do best" (about everything which does get annoying) but I'd like to see more people singing the praises of Chelsea.
It is the best flower show in the world, it is a showcase for talent and creativity and I'm enjoying every minute! -
Message 10
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
That's interesting about the cost Copywrite - I'm sure I paid over £40 last year, and that's as a RHS member. Either way, it is worth it for a day at Chelsea - especially if you live nearby and don't have to add on scandalous train fares.
I can remember a discussion this time about the cost of a day at the Chelsea Flower Show versus 90 minutes watching a Chelsea FC match. I can't remember the ratio, but the flower show was considerably cheaper. And much more edifying and uplifting I would imagine.
Enjoy your day at Chelsea, and don't forget to tell us all about it when you get back! -
Message 11
Posted by Jenks812 (U5452843) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
"I can't help comparing Chelsea with the filmfest in Cannes -I don't hear the French talking about the carbon footprint of all the people who have flown over or the cost of the posh frocks and jewelry sported by the "starlets"!"
Just because they don't question it, doesn't mean they shouldn't. -
Message 12
Posted by copywrite (U3184365) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
Dame Wombat,
I'm not sure why you paid £40 as my ticket last year was exactly £30. Maybe it is because I booked and paid for it well before Christmas - probably because I was afraid there would be a stampede. At that time of year, I don't think there is a rush. So maybe I had an early Bird discount. It might also be because I paid online - another area where organizations offer discounts. Or maybe it's because it is the Saturday. Hmmm.
I will certainly report back on what I saw, except that many people might not care what happened that late in the day. -
Message 13
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
Dame Wonmbat,
Surely there must be other things to spend your £40 on ??? Go down to your local family run garden centre. Speak to real people with real gardens, not these over pretentious 'creations' you get a Chelsea.
And Diamud Gavin, please your 'creations' are monsters.
G -
Message 14
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
Copywrite - I think that's the difference, I went on a member-only day. I notice the prices are cheaper this year for those too.
Mr Grinch - thanks for the advice but I will spend my money as I see fit. -
Message 15
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
Wow what a waste !
G -
Message 16
Posted by Kernow Canna (U10937844) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
I travel to the Chelsea Flower Show every couple of years and I live in West Cornwall!! I think it is well worth the time, money and effort!!
It is a showcase - if I want to see haute coture I go to the London Fashion week,if I want to see good ordinary clothes I go to M and S.If I want to see cutting edge design, new plants and a new twist to gardening I go to Chelsea - if I want to see good,ordinary gardens I go to local open garden days -it's quite a simple idea to grasp!!
It costs no more than a football match,meal or trip to the theatre and you have ALL DAY for the price
I always come back with a few ideas which I can adapt for my garden - not all of us are blessed with visionary skills or can design intuitively. Long may it continue and long may it be comprehensively covered ny the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú and the broadsheets -
Message 17
Posted by hdehoon (U2175617) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
Gardening means so many things to different people. I think Chelsea is fine.
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Message 18
Posted by solario (U11983925) on Tuesday, 20th May 2008
It's actually an experimental broadcast from Chelsea, VENUS!!!
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Message 19
Posted by Ariadne Knickerbocker (U4534559) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
If the Beeb coverage isn't really your cup of tea there's some interesting commentary on the show at:
sea-of-immeasurable-...
If only TV was this interesting! Ìý
Thanks for the link Dame Wombat - worth a snout around! -
Message 20
Posted by copywrite (U3184365) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
So many of the negative comments here regarding Chelsea tend to focus on the large show gardens. They also start to sound a bit like the comments you hear about modern art (my four-year old could do better than that, etc).
What they don't seem to be taking into consideration is the nursery stalls in the Floral Pavilion where some of the UK's best nurseries and plantspeople are showing their highest achievements. Now if anyone is a 'real' gardener, as boarders often describe this ethereal beast (when they are really talking about themselves), then they are there. -
Message 21
Posted by pootles magnet (U11709665) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
I disagree completely with the original post. Even just watching on telly, I've found a lot of things to inspire. I don't believe the show gardens are meant to be something you neccessarily pick up wholesale and move to your backyard, but there are lots of details and ideas that you can take inspiration from.
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Message 22
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
Mr-Grinch,
Of course you are not alone, it is elitist?
So is every posh shop window you ever looked into admiring what was in there but knowing it was not:- your taste, within your means, suitable for your area, would fit within your boundaries.
Chelsea is an upmarket window on the way gardening in this country is going, it is not meant to be your garden next door or ever will be.
Cutting edge designers are given free range to produce their own idea's, they produce plans and then write a full brief of the thoughts and planting which are read by the judges before casting their votes.
It is a window the world looks at and takes note of as well as taking part, that is what it is supposed to be.
If it was your garden or the one next door who on earth would visit?
Chelsea is an out of this world experience to gaze at, admire and with a little luck you may even take away some good idea's you can fit into your own place.
The pity is the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú presenters are so busy talking to each other we do not see very much of the show.
The small stalls of weird and wonderful garden things, the dedicated plantsmen who sell plants and who will tell you how to grow them on and look after them, I could spend hours with them as they not only know of what they speak but are also willing to pass that knowledge on. Many gardens who do not get medals are also worth seeing but Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú think otherwise?
Chelsea is for everyone, a lot of viewers will not even have gardens, those of us who do and find our expectations are never really fulfilled can salivate for an hour or so per day over one week.
Each time I am in Whitby I stand in front of the Olde Sweet Shop salivating and probably walk away with half a pound of mixed sweets.
That is Chelsea, if you want "real" gardening visit your local allotment.
Frank. -
Message 23
Posted by poshHebeJeebie (U9319867) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
FRANK!
You're back - with robust comments as ever on Chelsea or anything.
Cheers
PHJ -
Message 24
Posted by kath74 (U8999103) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
I've missed the way Frank's posts send me off at a tangent (or off on a tandem, as the OH says). Welcome back, Frank.
in Whitby I stand in front of the Olde Sweet Shop salivating and probably walk away with half a pound of mixed sweets.Ìý
I read about an experiment with a jam stall at a market. If they put out six varieties of jam, they sold a lot more than if there was 24 varieties. I stand in front of the Olde Sweet Shop and don't buy anything, 'cos I can't decide...
Anyway, back to Chelsea before the powers-that-be close the thread. I'm sure Frank's right that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú coverage doesn't do justice to many of the exhibitors, too much "celebrity culture" instead. I haven't had time to look at the interactive coverage yet, that may be better. -
Message 25
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
Hi Posh,
Yes missed you and some of the others not all.
Busy elswhere on a thread you can chat your head off, Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú, a dedicated thread but no interferences from those above or below which ever way you think of it.
Local history thread has kept me busy between my other main job looking after Joan.
Had to dash and remove the foil from the Gammon roast then.
I did look in to see what they were saying about Chelsea and my blood was up on the first post I read hence the reply, I do not hover so have no idea what the old mob if they still exist are up to.
Glad to see you are still there.
Frank.
PS and on my new laptop too. -
Message 26
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
Throtnot,
Exactly, I go in hover about, cannot make my mind up and then say mix me a few of those and out feeling slightly embarrassed at my indiscision.
Sending people off at a tangent is an old ploy I used in the army and civvy street when I wanted to get my orders obeyed without thought from the recipients.
In front of engineers I would fill a drop sheet with calculus and while the clever b~~~~~~ were trying to make sense of it get my planning across to those who mattered.
I think Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú are as you say too wrapped up with so called celeb culture. I watched last nights effort wondering who they h~~~ they were and why could they not just show the gardens stalls and best of all the flowers.
Frank. -
Message 27
Posted by kath74 (U8999103) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
Frank,
I don't know how long it is since you went to Whitby, in case it's a while I've sent a postcard to the Potting Shed.
Regards
T -
Message 28
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
Hi Frank,
If you really want to look at garden stalls, just pop down to your local garden centre. Im sure you get just as much variety, half the price and it wont cost you a fortune to get in. When i try to watch the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú coverage of Chelsea, i want to see gardens, not DESIGNERS (yes i use this word instead of gardeners) show off and fight it out between each other to see who's better. This creations in my humble opinion (and i will get shot down) are not in the spirit of proper gardening.
Next year im thinking of entering. Im thinking of a lawn, with a pile of bricks in the centre with a dandy lion flower poking out the top. Do you think i'll stand a chance of winning if i call it say 'The Minimalist Eco (as thats the 'IN' phrase) Garden' ??
Regards
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Message 29
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
Hi G,
It would get the same response as Paul Cooper's Ocean garden, zilch.
There will be some who love it and that is OK with me, it takes all kinds as they say.
My garden would be a garden of shades with open area's for the sun trap, secret paths with a constantly changing back drop of specimen plants and garden gnomes? well we need to smile as well as relax.
Among the latest new floral plants from abroad or nurseries would be the old English favourites probably from abroad in the first place.
Any so called celebs would be greeted with "Hi marrer, ow yer gannin, teck a gander then b~~~~~ off".
I think of Chelsea as a one off, there are many other garden shows through the year that are more common or garden, excuse the pun.
If some of us are daft enough to pay the price for a day of visual surprises that is our pocket money we are wasting and our right to do so. It means I have to give up a couple of bottles of good malt though.
Frank. -
Message 30
Posted by beejay (U2219592) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
Am i alone in thinking that the Chelsea Flower Show is an elitist show which bares no resemblance to normal gardening and gardens ??
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I would be interested in hearing what you feel normal gardening & gardens are. I suppose few of us start with a blank canvas so that is one aspect but really the gardens at chelsea are just at one end of a spectrum that takes in all sorts.
Well I went yesterday & spent 7 hours really enjoying myself In the company of hundreds of other real gardeners looking at some really beautiful & well designed gardens which on the whole I thought would have translated fairly easily into the gardens that many of us have. Although the tickets were fairly pricey, the first day is the most expensive, I do not begrudge a penny of it. I could have stayed for 12 hours. I mean how much is a pint down the pub these days or a decent haircut! For that I saw gardens large & small, all with a story to tell, saw the produts of many nurseries, garden centre chains, societies, charities & many others. I heard so many people chatting avidly to designers, growers, experts & others about their own gardens. It was great - you should go Mr Grinch! -
Message 31
Posted by PTSV (U12033675) on Wednesday, 21st May 2008
Sorry but Chelsea flower show is not supose to resemble 'normal' gardening or gardens...surely if people wanted to go see that they would pop next door to their neignbours garden...is that considered more 'normal'.
i apriciate your comment and im sure you would prefure Hampton Court muchbetter then Chelseamaybe check that one out next time -
Message 32
Posted by intheusa (U11299446) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
Talking of Mr Titchmarsh, would someone at the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú PLEASE refrain from giving him the Chelsea job next year. Since he started presenting it I (and many of my friends) can hardly bear to watch the programme. The Beeb could hardly have found a more self-satisfied 'look at me, aren't I the clever chummie chappie' person, or 'personality'. That is not what the interested gardener wants. We are forced to see far more of him than the actual plants. Bring back Monty!
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Message 33
Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
Bring back Monty!Ìý
Monty has never done any Chelsea coverage, he has a well-known hatred of the show. -
Message 34
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
AT is not exactly a blushing sort of lad with his deck chair jackets, I do prefer him to some of the others they have had on with absolutely no knowledge of plants.
Last nights effort gets 6 out of 10 from me as against 3 out 10 for the other nights shows.
We did see plants and that included my all time favourite Pinks, Lillies and Sweet Peas.
It is a memory of our walled garden during the war, everything was turned over to growing food but Dad kept his Pinks Lillies and Peony's, he also would keep seed from the sweet peas and provided many a bunch for wartime weddings, knowing Dad they would be freely given along with a piece of bacon or Ham for the meal after.
It makes me think we are all partly the flowers we grew up with, nice thought.
Frank. -
Message 35
Posted by Kernow Canna (U10937844) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
Alan is still BY FAR the best , most knowledgeable and personable person to front a gardening programme. Monty would be dire - he wouldn't be able to resist preaching and he shows no sense of humour or fun.He hates Chelsea and is entitled to do so - pleeeease Beeb, leave things as they are.
It's horses for courses - Terry Wogan for Eurovision
Gary Linekar for the cup final
Alan for Chelsea
Long may it continue!!!!!!!!!! -
Message 36
Posted by U8969255 (U8969255) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
If the Beeb coverage isn't really your cup of tea there's some interesting commentary on the show at:
sea-of-immeasurable-...
If only TV was this interesting! Ìý
I looked at this and it is hilarious! -
Message 37
Posted by ShirleyR (U12038819) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
Dear Mr G - there is no way that Chelsea is elitist. It is like buying a Vogue Magazine - anyone can buy a copy of this lovely glossy magazine - you dont have to slavishly copy what's there, but you can get so many creative ideas, and use them at your own level.
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Message 38
Posted by Ariadne Knickerbocker (U4534559) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
What would be wrong if it was elitist? Not everything has to appeal to everybody and in the case of Chelsea it is a shame that it appealed to so many people I couldn't get a last minute ticket!
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Message 39
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
Elitist is good. More people should strive for excellence in all they do rather than reducing everything to the lowest, dismal, common denominator. It is this drive to improve our lot that led to the invention of the wheel and all our current modern conveniences and technological wonders as well as improvements in garden design and plant varieties and other products and artefacts available to gardeners, cooks, builders, medicine and every other sphere of human activity.
No-one has to follow slavishly but they should be pleased there are people there to inspire us and inform us so we can make our own choices according to taste, time and funds available. -
Message 40
Posted by moet1234 (U12035805) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
Hi there
I don't think it's so much elitist as boringly rehashed.Every year keen amateur gardeners look forward to 'Chelsea'. For those of us unable to visit, the only viewpoint is that of the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú and the 'team'!! For the past years it's been the same old routine.They should stop giving us an overview.I want to be taken into the show gardens and have detailed explanations of specific planting.
Do we really need the embarrassing enactments of Joe Swift or another detailed trail round the tents. We're intelligent beings. This year I've used the off button as should the producer!
moet1234 -
Message 41
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
That's a whole other argument and I have made much use of "fast forward" when watching my recordings of the coverage. I don't think the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú gives us a comprehensive view of the gardens or the displays and I agree about wanting more detailed, closely focussed coverage of plants and combinations in the gardens.
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Message 42
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
Hi all,
Didnt realise Monty has an avid hater of Chelsea but i totally agree with him. Probably for the same reasons as I.
I think Mr T is also a great man and does well presenting but i still cant help thinking that he doesnt really believe what he's telling us on camera. Mr T is Mr Garden and as such, i dont really think this is his thing. Maybe Joe Swift or Diamud Gavin would be better suited as designers.
Give me Hampton or Malvern anyday. Real shows for real people.
Regards
Mr G -
Message 43
Posted by Ariadne Knickerbocker (U4534559) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
Oh dear - I've just bought tickets for Hampton. And now you're telling me it will be full of real people?
I was hoping it would be a bit more up-market. -
Message 44
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
Hi Obelixx,
So, it was gardeners who invented the wheel? I wondered where that round thing on the front of my barrow came from.
Of course it is elitist, as is the Trooping of the Colour, the Proms and every other display we Brits are noted all over the world for.
If it was not we would not be watching the very patchy bits we are seeing each night on TV, Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú would not bother with it.
We have to put up with the presenters, so called celebs and Joe doing his audition for the next Indiana Jones just to catch the odd glance of the actual exhibits.
Last night I was partly satisfied when they showed the Pinks Lilies and Sweet peas, it made up for the rubbish nights.
I think that is all we can expect, a small taster of our own preferences but we still watch in hope we will see more.
Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú have to pander to the interest of all its viewers many will not be gardeners, some may even be interested in the minor celebs, they say it takes all sorts.
Oh well, I will watch tonight and any other programs on Chelsea, they may just show something different, who knows.
Frank. -
Message 45
Posted by gaia (U11982907) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
You are not alaone Mr Grinch. Chelsea is just soooo, well, all fur coat and nae knickers if you see what I mean. Where is the "gardening"? There is too much structural building work involved in producing these gardens. Yes some of them are beautiful, but numerous giant parasols and uninteresting green bumps don't make a garden. Has no-on herd of Gertrude Jekyll?
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Message 46
Posted by beejay (U2219592) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
OK, so what makes a garden? Discuss.
Why is Hampton Court so different to Chelsea? Discuss. -
Message 47
Posted by PTSV (U12033675) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
meh to be honest i dont think there is that much difference. However i much prefure hampton court because it has more stalls and it has the country living tent with lovely jewlery and yummy food however thats my shopaholic side aswell as my age taking over.
Although i guess the gardens at Chelsea are concidered more serous then chelsea.
but i dont find chelsea more posh or elitist than hampton court -
Message 48
Posted by tonybloke (U10358435) on Thursday, 22nd May 2008
a group of us students travelled down from norfolk yesterday, Afternoon session, (3-8p.m.)only £20 most of us are rhs members. A showcase for design, fantastic nursery displays, and I purchased a Bronze Trowel! (been after 1 for ages. didn't get home 12.30 a.m. Tired but Inspired, well worth a visit!!
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Message 49
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Friday, 23rd May 2008
Frank - you need to read with greater attention. I did not say gardeners invented the wheel.
I did say Chelsea is a showcase of excellence and innovation. I also believe the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú's coverage is poor being repetitive, superficial and trivial for far too much of each programme and also showing us films of people and gardens that should really feature in a Chelsea prequel or other gardening programme rather than waste time that could be better spent looking actual gardens and displays in proper detail.
Thank goodness there are people from here each year who take the trouble to photograph the gardens for us and post them for all to see at our leisure.
Alan Titchmarsh loves Chelsea and has won gold for a garden design so can speak with authority of the work involved. I enjoy his commentary very much and also think Joe is at his best on these shows. -
Message 50
Posted by poppycat (U12044707) on Friday, 23rd May 2008
Most of the nursery stalls are beautiful but do we have to see venus fly traps etc every year?
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