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Why new camera angles

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  Posted by lesleybaileywynne (U13506412) on Monday, 6th October 2008

  I'm all for a good view of a lovely garden but when it comes down to the nitty gritty and I'm being shown how to do something, missing the crucial clip is more than frustrating!
  The team that supported AT were brilliant, and even the ones MD had were good, but the new team keep missing the point - please can they be encouraged to focus?

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  Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Monday, 6th October 2008

  indeed, it is all a bit 'nigella lawson' these days. it works for her because she is a goddess- less so for mr swift!!!

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  Posted by Eastyman (U6799887) on Tuesday, 7th October 2008

  Absolutely, it's a trend infecting many gardening/cookery programmes and must stop! I've more or less given up on GW. Turned off last week at the out of focus shot through the greenhouse window as Sarah Raven discussed micro salads. I dont want in and out focusing, blurred shots or close-ups of ears and feet. I want to see what is happening.
  
  
  
  Get back to basics with the camera work and there's the basis of a good programme, I like Toby and Carol, less sure of Joe but it's not an issue.
  

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  Posted by digitalgrandcanal (U11760543) on Thursday, 9th October 2008

  hear hear, Eastyman, you took the words out of my mouth.

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  Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Thursday, 9th October 2008

  I dont want in and out focusing, blurred shots or close-ups of ears and feet. I want to see what is happening. 
  I confess that I've banged on about this stupidity for years now. Never has there been any explanation for the absurdity of ensuring viewers DON'T see the subject (as opposed to actually appreciating and enjoying it). I've NEVER seen any posting in which a 'boarder' professes to enjoying watching an out-of-focus picture, or any associated tomfoolery. At no time has there been any explanation from the production team (who clearly think we're as stupid as themselves), and the only official comment on the subject was from Monty, who thought it created 'mood'.
  I further confess that I haven't seen the last couple of GW's. It's not that I've no intention of watching ever again - it's more that I just happened to be doing something else which previously would have been put aside. This was a programme that I used to regard as essential viewing, and now there is complete indifference. I have no problem with the new host, so the answer must be in the infantile production. There have been times when it looked as if they'd been listening, but then the stupidity returned the following week. If any member of the 'team' is old enough to contribute to the board, I'd be really interested to know why they've managed to spoil yet another programme. Presenters apparently haven't got the intelligence to determine how their scenes are going to be presented (cue-board readers), so it's up to viewers to persist in their complaints. I would estimate that at least one hour of our gardening programme every year is reduced to blur/flash/swirl/irrelevance - which should be regarded as an expensive scandal.
  

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  Posted by Toadspawn (U2334298) on Thursday, 9th October 2008

  
  Come on Hosts please find out why the programme producers allow this to happen when none of the viewers want it.
  Do the producers ever read the message boards or are the viewers comments ever passed to them?

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  Posted by Sir Plantalot (U11098143) on Thursday, 9th October 2008

  Must agree with previous osts On this point did anyone see Points of view las Sunday? It would appear that other programmes are similarly afflicted and the viewers are up in arms. Peter Salmon Chief Creative Officer appeared and said they were trying to make programmes exciting and compelling but they don't always get it right. Well Peter I am afraid that you are not getting it right week in week out!! Please send the art students back to college and give us some good old fashioned shots where we can actually see whats going on.
  
  Just a suggestion why not let the production team do Match of the Day. Blurry shots, Views between the linesmans legs, focusing on Ronaldos face rather than the ball.....Th possibilities are endless.
  
  I can just see the team being pursued up the street by thousands of irate footy fans.
  

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  Posted by Eastyman (U6799887) on Wednesday, 15th October 2008

  Why the hell does a gardening need to be "exciting or compelling" but if it does how does a ground level shot of a blurred presenters foot achieve this. If I want gritty and exciting then a gardening program would not be my choice of viewing. I gave up on Carol's how to grow veg series after getting fed up with views of grass tops, boot laces, etc.
  
  Keep it simple, frame the shot and stop moving in and out
  
  

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  Posted by mysteryletterboxs (U1950653) on Wednesday, 15th October 2008

  Ditto to everything that has been said so far on this subject.
  I've complained before and given up on some programmes.
  Please get back to basics. Send the arty-*arty 'drunken' camera persons back to art college and lock them in until they can hold and focus a camera properly.

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  Posted by blackeyedsusan (U2456655) on Thursday, 16th October 2008

  Re Message 5 - I agree. This sort of camera work is almost as annoying as intrusive music.

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  Posted by digitalgrandcanal (U11760543) on Thursday, 16th October 2008

  I agree with Ken Smart too. It's in lots of programmes.
  
  There was one of Stepen Fry recently where he was showing how paper was made from rice or milk or something. It was the original technique used eons ago. But all you could see was the top of his head and the top of his shoulders! Ridiculous.

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