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Three sub-standard GW shows

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  Posted by Rumex_acetosa (U13871046) on Friday, 27th March 2009

  So we have now had the promised three GW specials. The wretched CK giggling show, the tedious Joe up a wall show, and an interesting and challenging peat show. They have been broadcast during MARCH of all months.
  
  Each one of these shows could bave been sensibly broadcast during November, December or January, or any time when we don't do much in the garden. March is surely the most critical month of all. Time to finish off the tasks that we did not quite complete in the deep winter, an exciting time of new growth, seeds germinating, new plans and hopes. and we got CK at her silliest and most irritating driving round the country, and going ballistic about anything that could photosynthesise. Joe being tedious up his walls, and an overlong show about misleading labelling of sacks of compost.
  
  I feel seriously let down by Aunty. GW, at its best can be stimulating, challenging, inspiring and encouraging. It has led me to grow plants about which I did not know, and to create plant combinations that took my gardening to levels that I could never have aspired to. THe show has the money to employ acknowledged experts (not mere personalities)who can share their knowledge and stimulate me to do my gardening better. These three shows failed me absolutely, they were trash. None of them stimulated me to do anything in the garden, greenhouse or potting shed.
  
  I just do not understand how our highly paid producers could create such low grade filler programmes. I appreciate that they must be coping with logistics problems with abandoning the old berryfields and starting a 21st century 'relevant' garden, but with the quantitites of our money available to them they could surely have done better than this. Watching someone with a small garden trying to germinate seeds and prepare their beds would have been more stimulating.
  
  Shame on you GW. This has been a piss poor start to the year. It can only get better (fingers crossed) Please try harder - or get a new team in.

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  Posted by September_Smoke (U11728677) on Saturday, 28th March 2009

  Well said.
  
  I reckon it's a ruse to make us like Toby Buckland. When he took over the general feeling was that one of Monty's minions should have been given the lead role. But now we've seen how annoying/boring they would be given the air time, Toby has emerged as quite capable and articulate.
  
  Who's doing the last of the four specials? Monty's ex-dogsbody Alish? Surely posh women with small dogs need to be represented.
  
  PS. I still like Carole and Joe. I just wish she'd chill out a bit. Joe's only crime is that the plants on walls things wasn't interesting enough. And I love his dad in Old Guys.
  
  PPS. It was nice to see Monty on Question Time. He seemed quite well. I know he's writing for The Daily Mail (puke) but I want him to 'don' his leather tabard again and get back on telly out there in the mud pronouncing angelically about micarizzha, and other things I can't spell.

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  Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Saturday, 28th March 2009

  Good rant Rumex. Unfortunately it's all been said before and repeatedly and no-one seem sto be listening.

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  Posted by Mrs-puffin (U13892161) on Saturday, 28th March 2009

  You are an ungrateful lot. Here in Wales we are lucky if we get Gardeners World on a Friday at all. We get Rugby on both analogue and digital at the same time as Gardeners World should be on. Thank goodness for the I-Player. If you don't like a programme, why don't you just turn it off and go and do something useful.

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  Posted by keanegardener (U2963540) on Saturday, 28th March 2009

  I agree with all thats been said here. In fact I have been deliberatley missing GW, because it was annoying and upsetting me and a love of gardening added to a love of good television programmes should not bring on these negative emotions.
  Yes I know.........I do not live in GB and therefore do not pay your L. fee....but the criticisms posted are in my most humble opinion both accurate and valid.
  The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is a World resource which is being abused by goals and attitudes within it which have more to do with personal greed and ambition than a genuine desire for quality work.

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  Posted by Verglas (U13893782) on Sunday, 29th March 2009

  Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú has lost the plot (in a manner of speaking)
  Is GW a gardening programme any more, this edition was so slow I was waiting for something about gardening but was disappointed having wasted an hour (well not quite, I had taped it and fast-forwarded looking for something resembling gardening), how about doing tests on how to use the peat-free composts they were so wanting us to use ?, - nothing, total rubbish government greenie propaganda.
  
  
  

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  Posted by JanButterfly (U4426233) on Monday, 30th March 2009

  Very well-done to the Gardeners' World team for tacking the peat issue! It's wonderful to see conservation given a whole hour! But you didn't really show the public what the beauties and rarities are! It got a bit boring, even for us conservationists, so I'm afraid the general gardening public will have switched off before the end. I know you must have been filming last summer when the weather was not good for insects on Fenns and Whixall Moss, but I also know Joan Daniels will have many gorgeous still photos of the rare dragonflies, butterflies and flowers that live on the moss, - so also do the rest of us in the same LBAP partnership. You often show still photos of flowers and plants at other times of year in a programme - why not the same in this one? It really was important to get the public onside by showing them why our peat bogs are called our rainforest. Jan Miller, Butterfly Conservation volunteer

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  Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Monday, 30th March 2009

  I thought the peat debate was reasonably well presented. The fact that Kew Gardens haven't used it for nearly 30 years and the WHICH? tests should have been enough to convince anyone we can garden without it.
  
  I agree the filming of the beauties and rarities of peat bog fauna and flora were somewhat understated and could have been tackled more imaginatively.
  
  However, it was a good hour wrongly scheduled. Like so many others what I want to se enow is topical, relevant gardening with tips to inspire and inform me. This sort of thing is fit for broadcast only as an extra programme or on Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú4 or, just maybe, in December or January but not in the only gardening slot on Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú2.

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  Posted by Eladekralc (U3040105) on Wednesday, 1st April 2009

  They have always done specials and sometimes they are very interesting for me and sometimes not, but that does not mean I think they are rubbish.
  
  I enjoyed all of them in there own way and glad that we have a TV service that can produce items like this, as it would be sorely missed in my view.
  
  Just because you do not like them does not mean other people don't, and I am really hoping that Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú go back to making programmes with a 'lesser' broad based 'Entertainment' show and spend the money on substance not celebrity.
  
  As for March being critical, certainly ain't here in Cleveland as April is. March is normally too cold and windy to do nothing.
  
  Keep up the good work GW, you surely will not please all the Gardeners all of the time...

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  Posted by Eladekralc (U3040105) on Wednesday, 1st April 2009

  "I thought the peat debate was reasonably well presented. The fact that Kew Gardens haven't used it for nearly 30 years and the WHICH? tests should have been enough to convince anyone we can garden without it"
  
  I would love to not use peat, but I cannot afford the 400% cost increase at the moment. 99p for a peat growbag but £4.99 for a peat free bag would mean a whopping £20 extra (my Garden Budget for seeds and would make Vegetables cheaper to buy from Supermarket) just to grow my Toms & Cucumbers (they will not grow in Peat free for me) and then I cannot guarantee that they will grow in the medium or what it is.
  
  I make my own compost (only Good as a soil improver, not for seeds) but do not have enough room to make enough, I also use Council's Best but again it has not been of great quality because of the weather issues last year and they are going to start charging £2.50 a bag which again makes it more expensive than equivalent peat.

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