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Posted by quitedutchbrit (U10671966) on Monday, 6th July 2009
Why does everything on TV have to 'be a larf'. I don't understand!
Even the Hampton Court coverage today was largely Rachel and Jo having a joke and a larf and a giggle and snigger..... For heaven's sake! Just show us the flowers, the gardens etc. All the abysmal sniggering talk about Henry 8th and all his wives and that frightful courtyard garden just are too awful for words, Whatever has happened to descriptive and interesting presentations on Tv. It's just turned into 'entertainment' and 'shows' and, however much the presenters seem to like it themselves, it's dreary and low level viewing for most of us.
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I thought the programme was interesting and I really enjoyed it.It was a curtain raiser to the coverage as there are two further programmes on Thursday and Friday.I really liked the flowers in the marquee and the gardens for Henry's wives.Joe and Rachael were fine although I could have done without the miriad of plugs for the 24/7 service via the website.Roll on Thursday
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I caught the programme by accident - having had to spend the evening inside because of torrential rain! There does seem to be a fashion with the BEEB to do "arty" stuff all the time - the feature on the two male conseptual garden designers was really irritating - all that spinning the camera around and filming them jumping off a low ledge - what's that all about?
I really like Rachael, but thought she was in danger of being turned into a "Nigella" all that staring sexily into the camera in the marquee, please, she's a good presenter and knows her stuff - no need for that!
I also thought that Rachael and Joe seemed ill at ease with each other, their banter was very structured, maybe they need less direction and be allowed to do what they do best, talk about plants and gardens.
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I really like Rachael, but thought she was in danger of being turned into a "Nigella" all that staring sexily into the camera in the marqueeÂ
Quite right! She does kinda flutter her eyelashes & slink over to whatever item she is about to talk about.
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Not quite in the same league as your favourite,Christine, then David?
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How many times have we said that we want the camera focussed on the plants and not the presenter? We know what the presenters look like.
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Not quite in the same league as your favourite,Christine, then David?Â
Petalina - You know, I think old age must be mellowing me.
Her antics in 'Christine's Garden' drove me up the wall, but having seen her since in a few other programmes (where she is less animated) I have found her reasonably tolerable.
I’ve just remembered her revolting gorging!!!! …..Please disregard the afore mentioned!
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Yes.....thank goodness we were spared her take on the strawberry harvest!!!
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Was it just me or did anyone else think the renovated garden was a bit odd. The green and white striped boundary fences reminded me of cordoned off building sites. The planting was so minimul that the whole garden i thought was awful. I really could not see anything attractive about any or it.
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Nope. You're not alone. I thought it looked dreadful and I don't care whether or not it was historically correct. It was horrible.
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Glad to hear it was not just me. As you say even if it was historically correct to my mind it was not worth the effort. Maybe it looked better off T.V i hope so maybe someone else who went will tell us.
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I didn't like it either. Enjoyed tonight's programme
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Why do they insist on still using Joe?
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú have so many other brilliant gardening presenters.
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I know, I really wish they wouldn't
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and the gardens for Henry's wivesÂ
I thought so far the two gardens out of the three I have seen on TV last night looked really strange. The first two wives's gardens I think were poorly researched into and could have reflected their personality a lot, instead of what happened to them.
The Cathrine of Aragon garden was really quite horrible to look at.
The Anne Boleyn which was based on sex and witchcraft was completely wrong. I thought the designer missed the point on that garden and having the scaffold in the corner was very tasteless. Also basing it on witchcraft which Anne was convicted of (and didn't commit it turns out and is a known fact) was also a bit unfair to include in the garden. They could have just based it on passion and made it nice and colourful instead.
I like the Jane Seymour garden the best out of the three I have seen so far though.
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I really have to say
The pink sand was truely hideous! What on earth were they thinking???
I also thought The Quilted Velevet Garden was really uninspiring and dull, I can't believe it got a gold
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looks to me the bbc is trying to 'Top Gear' its shows. ie take a show that used to be about the subject and instead focus on the presenters 'attitude'.
The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú no longer claims Top Gear is a show about cars but is 'entertainment'. You won't find much useful about the latest cars on top gear but you might have a 'larf wiv da lads'.
so in that philosophy gardening on the bbc isn't about gardening any more but 'having a larf wiv da lads'. [Joe is quite blokish innit]?
i don't blame the presenters as they have to do what the producers latest religion tells them to do.
Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú isn't about public service. its about ratings and media executive games as they play oneupmanship.
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I like Joe
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>>The Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú no longer claims Top Gear is a show about cars but is 'entertainment'. You won't find much useful about the latest cars on top gear but you might have a 'larf wiv da lads'.<<
I love Top Gear, but then I don't really care about cars, or regard them a a serious subject, I just enjoy the general political incorrectness of the team.
On the other hand, I do care about plants and don't think the laddish behaviour of the GW lot does much for gardening, or is remotely appropriate. None of them seem to have enough of a personal relationship with any of the others to make whatever banter they are given to recite seem realistic, they just make themselves look silly and irritate the audience.
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Possum and I love Top Gear too and howl with laughter at some of their antics but it's definitely not a programme to help you decide about your next purchase of a family car or a runabout. It also has to be said I don't care about cars as long as the one I'm driving does what I need in terms of speed, comfort, boot space and plant and obelisk carrying capacity.
GW is still, as far as I know, claiming to be about plants and gardens but is not delivering. I'm convinced it's mainly a production team problem as I've seen Joe do perfectly rasonable slots on the AT and MD versions of GW. Alys was OK too on the Monty version. However I do have deep reservations about Tony and his integrity as a serious gardener and gardening presenter. So far it's all show and no substance from him.
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dont like either of 'em.she's crap ponsing about.never seen her hands dirty yet in the series.wouldn't want joe to see to my allotments.sorry but that's the way it is.
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I really enjoyed the programm. True, the Henry 8th courtgardens where a bit over the top, but it was presented well by Rachel and Joe. Why not make a joke if the designs are a joke?
Joe´s the best!
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, in reply to message 1.
Posted by tinydiamondgirl (U14066310) on Saturday, 11th July 2009
agree with you.would like to see more about gardening.also it would help if sometimes they could use english nanes for plants.
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Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Saturday, 11th July 2009
The garden i was talking about was the restoration garden in the first program not the Henry's wives gardens.
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Didn't like Friday's programme
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Petalina, I did like the coverage on Friday, which just goes to prove that you just can not please all people at one time.
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"Once upon a time" gardens and gardening was about plants. How to grow them, where to grow them, how to nurture them and how to propagate them.
Now stick a couple of so called Celebs (what on earth does that word mean) in front of a camera, give them a script from the young comedians and cover the nuisance bit, the plants, with quick out of focus camera shots.
After watching all the programmes and seeing the bit where Joe was fluffing his lines which will be in Anne Robinson's Off Cuts some day soon, I was bitterly disappointed.
The same few gardens the same few people and a discussion on whether gardening is art or not?
Who cares?I do not, Nature is art, we interfere with that art for our own ends and pleasure often for the worse.
For goodness sake next time show us the show, is that too complicated for you producers?
Frank.
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Was it just me or did anyone else think the renovated garden was a bit odd. The green and white striped boundary fences reminded me of cordoned off building sites.Â
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No, it wasn't just you. I said it looked like a murder scene that the police had cordoned off. I know the stipes were green, not blue, but that was what it reminded me of. Certainly didn't enhance the garden in any way.
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Posted by quitedutchbrit (U10671966) on Saturday, 18th July 2009
I like Joe. PetalinaÂ
I like Joe too. But I think it is really awful how he lowers 'izself tawkin as ie duz'!
This man has an actor for a father and a posh novelist for a mother. What on earth is he 'finkin ov' talking the way he does and pretending to be stupid - ''enry vee eightf' etc etc and pretendin ee knows nuffink abou' 'istry' in order to fulfil the role of GW clown? I cannot and will not believe he is as simpleminded as he seems to be! Why doesn't he seem to have the confidence to be his own man instead of acting this ghastly role?
Neither he nor Rachael did justice to themselves in the Hampton Court report and neither did they do much justice to the gardens or the plants.
Why can't the bbc try doing at least a part of a show with the camera itself taking us around and about with NO INANE COMMENTARY - just a few minutes would be such a breath of fresh air and save a mountain of irritation!
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