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gardners world a hippy load of compost
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Posted by katiekate (U14419383) on Sunday, 11th April 2010
Well Geoff Hamilton would be really unhappy and Alan Titchmarsh will be there to help but please no more books...I have watched the programe and am totally wanting to put you on my compost bin.... My thoughts will nrver be heard this is the 麻豆官网首页入口...But get real you want New Gardners to be introduced to your World with this Hippy Crap...and so damp like the weather
I must say Toby inspired me to grow the Castor Oil Plant but of course no progress on this..Carol is made to do as she is told No inspiration and so approahable and best suited to using her own skills...Sorry thats not Art....If you want forest gardens and let Alice impose her pwn opinions and us as the viewers do not matter you are going in so the wrong direction...Geoff Hamilton inspired me What are you doing just making a programe that we all pay for...No nature ..No inspiration.....Just making do ..Its not good enough for me and all the people in this country who remain loyal..Who love gardening
Get real and back to basics and inspire nature not use a weed killer it will be here long after us...and it so dsrves to be..
Alice please your opions are not what we want This show is about the public...Not your ideas and hippy tin cans and the set all so Arty farty..
Can I have some olive please..
Gardners World please make my friday night as a reward not just a plot I donot wish to plant
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Message 2
Posted by ahopefulagain (U4594275) on Monday, 12th April 2010
Funny that really because I find Alys really inspiring. I'm now researching more into forest gardens as I'd love to turn mine into one. I'm not just copying her, it goes along with my own believes. Maybe I'm just a arty farty hippy too!
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Message 3
Posted by Miss-polly (U14402803) on Monday, 12th April 2010
Well Mrs Kate McComb
You seem to like a few others on the board too be unhappy with the present Gardeners World, which I feel I must defend as this season it has and is improving with every week, it has been suffering with a few production problems which now seem to be (after much debate) getting better.
I don鈥檛 quite see your reasoning, when once again Alys is being criticised for creating a Forest garden which is something I鈥檓 looking forward to see develop, I have an interest in woodland plants, which I find extremely beautiful, each presenter is creating a different back garden to give three different approaches, surely the idea is that you can adapt sections to suit your particular patch.
As most of us are amateurs with very little formal training, I have also found carol鈥檚 section on plant families extremely informative
鈥淐arol is made to do as she is told No inspiration and so approahable and best suited to using her own skills...Sorry thats not Art鈥)
what does that mean? Where do you get your information, how do you know that Carol is only doing what she told?
As for Geoff Hamilton and Alan Titchmarsh being unhappy, Geoff鈥檚 approach to gardening was about being frugal which is something Alys is taking up, not that we should make assumptions for people that are no longer here to speak for themselves
"But get real you want New Gardners to be introduced to your World with this Hippy Crap"
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Message 5
Posted by theweeshep (U13961168) on Monday, 12th April 2010
Hi Katiekate.
Last year this board was full of complaints about GW, this year only a handful so I guess in most peoples eyes it is improving - but there will never be the option to please all the people all the time.
You're obviously one of the unhappy bunnies. At least I think you are - I recognise all the words in your post but the order they are in doesn't any much sense...
And believe me, being somewhat an ageing hippy myself, GW is most definitely NOT a load of hippy cr4p. Which for me is a shame
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Message 6
Posted by theweeshep (U13961168) on Monday, 12th April 2010
doesn't any much sense
^^ and with that, I am as bad as the OP!
I mean "doesn't make much sense". If that makes sense...
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Message 7
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Monday, 12th April 2010
well.. i am not a gardner anyway
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Message 8
Posted by poshHebeJeebie (U9319867) on Monday, 12th April 2010
Well - as far as rants go, the OP goes pretty far!
I had been a GW devotee for many years. Last year's efforts were, quite rightly, taken well and truly to task. (I had thought that the first couple of programmes at the time had promise. I was quickly disabused of such optimism).
This year is not as good as the past IMO. But then, I may be pretty much an unreconstructed gardener
However: it is much, much better! Were I a new gardener, I could learn a lot. As an experienced gardener I feel it is limited - but at least I tune in (which this time last year I did not).
GW can't be all things to all people. But the "powers that be" have listened to the justified criticism, and have acted on it.
It's not perfect - but that depends on your perspective. For some, Geoff Hamilton was "perfect" - for others,it was Alan Titchmarsh.
There is no one perfect model. But as a programme, it informs, albeit in limited fashion, and it entertains.
And probably encourages new gardeners.
Not "unmissable" as I felt it was in the past. But eminently watchable and informative, even if somewhat limited.
Just my opinion. But I am trying to be fair to all potential viewers, rather than simply imposing my own specific "wants".
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Message 9
Posted by John L (U10162566) on Monday, 12th April 2010
Its just different people and different years. Can anyone tell me the difference between Alan, Monty or Geoff planting clematis and soft fruit compared to Joe and Toby ? Or Veg...or roses....or talking about feeding tomatoes, or making a willow support for beans etc. ?
Same things, different eras and different folk..
I think some folks should pour a drink and relax on a friday -
Message 10
Posted by martingodliman (U13761957) on Tuesday, 13th April 2010
Having a drink is more likely to cause some (me) to lose their restraint, and shoot from the hip
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Message 11
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Tuesday, 13th April 2010
In a nutshell - more information given clearly and at the right time, better explanations, better photography showing the deed or plant rather than the presenter's face, botanical names on screen plus care and respect for the plants and the viewers.
Both Joe and Toby can be far too slapdash and careless and, whilst things have improved this season, their manner can be patronising and condescending and the photography "creative" to say the least. -
Message 12
Posted by cabbagekatie (U14421246) on Tuesday, 13th April 2010
couldnt agree more!
now if only they would sort out that annoying soundtrack too -
Message 13
Posted by ahopefulagain (U4594275) on Tuesday, 13th April 2010
I don't really like Toby much. I'm not sure if it's him or the way he's directed (I've not seen him on anything before) but he always sounds like he's talking to a rather deaf old thing who has trouble following instructions. Maybe that's the audience they are going for?! But then I didn't like Monty until I saw him doing something else, and now I'm a huge fan!
Do you think he actually reads the boards? Or is it a researcher? Hello Toby! (he mentioned it on the last show)
And why has Carol been banished to her own garden? Maybe she prefers it? Doesn't she get on with the others?
And when is it filmed? Last week they said it was "unseasonably cold", but last week we were basking in June-like sunshine and warmth! -
Message 14
Posted by ahopefulagain (U4594275) on Tuesday, 13th April 2010
ps re the soundtrack, I tend to find that most editors of gardening programmes seem to have borrowed our CD collection - we have nearly all the tracks they use! (adding more to my hippy credentials!)
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Message 15
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Tuesday, 13th April 2010
the re-worked theme tune is a few years old.
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Message 16
Posted by sheelagh davis (U14425540) on Friday, 16th April 2010
I am in total agreement with you. Gardeners' world has become a contrived unrealistic program having now lost all its wholesome character and personality including a lead presenter bearing the same qualities. The 'edible garden' is more like the traditional style that we all love and cherish. Lets get back to the real gardening!
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Message 17
Posted by U14426081 (U14426081) on Friday, 16th April 2010
sheelagh davis Gardeners' world has always been a contrived unrealistic program having no character or personality. So it can not lose or regain something it never had.
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Message 18
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Friday, 16th April 2010
Hmmmmmmm
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Message 19
Posted by poppy79 (U14426332) on Friday, 16th April 2010
I've watched Gardeners' World for years. Loved Alan, not keen on Monty. Love Toby but miss his sparkle and banter with Joe and the others from last year's format. I think 30 minutes means that no personality comes through, no fun and no humour. Surely there's a middle way? Why have a presenter at all if he's not allowed to put something of himself across and have a bit of fun doing the show? With 60 minutes you could incorporate so much more to do with gardening, eg last year's Dig In campaign, viewers' gardens for inspiration, topical items etc. To me, this year's format is a little stilted giving the impression that the presenters have been severely pruned!
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Message 20
Posted by LeadFarmer (U13864996) on Friday, 16th April 2010
Toby is ok, but I dont think he should be the lead presenter. He would work well as part of the team, but with someone new as lead presenter.
I cant help thinking that he would be more suited as a kids TV presenter. -
Message 21
Posted by Mike (U14311251) on Friday, 16th April 2010
I havent seen previous episodes so cant comment much.
But I think they are trying to cater for everyone, some people like flowers some like veg.
At the end of the day, how many different ways can they tell us to get a seed, put into soil and water.
I also like to watch "Grow your own Drugs" and "Edible Garden" together with gardeners world, which gives it a complete picture. -
Message 22
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Saturday, 17th April 2010
It's not that simple.
Some seeds need light to germinate, others need to be covered. Some need a period of dormancy before they think it's safe to germinate whilst oters are best sown fresh and green and yet others can be tricked by a spell in the fridge to think winter has passed and it's OK to grow.
Some, like lettuce, won't germinate if it's too warm as they know the plant will fry. Some plants need the chemicals produced in a bush or forest fire to spark germination.
Some seedlings resent being disturbed so have to be planted in individual cells and pots. Others can happily be scattered in trays or pots and then pricked out. Some seedlings, like sweet peas, benefit from being pinched to encourage bushiness. Others, like cordon tomatoes, need side shoots pinched out to encourage the leaders.
And the there are preferred media for sowing.
There's no end of variation in methods of seed sowing for best results. -
Message 23
Posted by Miss-polly (U14402803) on Monday, 19th April 2010
I was just wondering why a poster would start a discussion, then not come back to see how its going, or reply to people who have bother to answer and discuss a subject, correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that how it works. just seems a bit of waste not to keep it going for a while.
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