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Gardeners’ World 21 May 2010
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Message 1.Â
Posted by saima_host (U13967342) on Friday, 21st May 2010
A quick reminder that Gardeners' World is on air tonight on Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú2 at 8.30pm. Toby will be planting out his tomato plants, both in the greenhouse and outdoors, and will also show the best shrubs for sunny and shady spots in the garden. Carol will be looking at the diverse, fascinating and beautiful mint family, and Alys undertakes essential maintenance in the tropical garden and plants out annual climbers.
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Message 2
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Friday, 21st May 2010
OK, bits and bobs were interesting.
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Message 3
Posted by koala_girl (U12702629) on Friday, 21st May 2010
I liked the bit about Leonardslea gardens. It is such a shame that it won't be open to the public any more as it is beautiful. I felt so sorry for the gardener who had worked there for 32 years. I hope they keep him on.
I continue to find Carol's piece about plant families fascinating. I had no idea that rosemary was part of the mint family. -
Message 4
Posted by Dave (U14341467) on Friday, 21st May 2010
I went to Leonardslee as a child and I still feel the awe when I visited once again this week.
The walls of colour from the azaleas, the blankets of bluebells, the wild woodland paths festooned with Rhododendrons, and the calming waters at the bottom of the valley. It is such a great loss for the public gardens and impossible to understand how, so easily such a treasure can be easily lost.
I hope so much that the new owner chooses to keep it open and thank the current head gardener for allowing me to walk amongst the canvas he has so lovingly created -
Message 5
Posted by koala_girl (U12702629) on Friday, 21st May 2010
I went there a few years ago and it was magical (apart from being chased by a swan when I didn't notice it's nest). Another awesome rhododendron experience I had was in Poole Harbour. We had caught a ferry across to Brownsea Island and as we approached it looked as if half the island was a mass of purple.
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Message 6
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Friday, 21st May 2010
What was the point Toby was making about using thin skinned tomatoes for greenhouse growing since sun through the glass makes thick skin?. I replayed three times and still can not make sense of it and/or have not heard of this effect before.
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Message 7
Posted by doncat (U11203674) on Saturday, 22nd May 2010
I'm going to Leonardslee this afternoon. I've been wanting to see it for years so taking the chance now before it closes to the public. Looks like we've picked a nice day to go.
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Message 8
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Saturday, 22nd May 2010
What was the point Toby was making about using thin skinned tomatoes for greenhouse growing since sun through the glass makes thick skin?.Â
welshcol - Toby does often talk a load of twaddle, but on this occasion I do have to agree with him.
Experiments have shown that prolonged exposure to sun through glass can cause though skins, also blotchy ripening - Hence a good reason to shade your greenhouse.
Btw, lack of sun resulting in tomatoes staying on the vine for prolonged periods in the 'green state', can also result in tough skins.
I’m not sure what all that ‘planting a tomato at the base of ring culture pot and backfilling with compost’ was all about.
Why all the faffing? Why not just fill the ring with compost & plant, as it’s been done through the ages?
Can’t see any advantage meself!
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Message 9
Posted by PenylanSue (U13901201) on Saturday, 22nd May 2010
It alows more roots to form on the stem that's been buried and therefore more take-up of nutrients.
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Message 10
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Sunday, 23rd May 2010
Best bit was the last 30 seconds when he said they were not on next week due to the Chelsea coverage.
It was dire on Friday night, time for a re-thing and a change of personnel. -
Message 11
Posted by margaretstar (U14415248) on Sunday, 23rd May 2010
I watch GW with my laptop and answer those e-mails that I'd put off doing the whole week - when I hear something that sounds as if it will be of interest I look up and watch.
The whole thing then becomes much more "fruitful" that way, less than enthralling night = e-mails done, interesting programme =
something new learnt or gorgeous seen and I don't waste energy
fuming over something that may have been useful or enjoyable to
someone else! -
Message 12
Posted by JakiB (U4322875) on Sunday, 23rd May 2010
Loved the Leonardsleee bit as it's fairly near where I live. I can understand the sadness at having to leave it - what a wrench!
I thought that Toby was totally mad putting tin cans in the garden for helping the water get to the roots of his plants!! Tin cans?!? They'll go rusty in no time - why not plastic drinks bottles? -
Message 13
Posted by groovygran (U2934690) on Friday, 28th May 2010
I used to put flowerpots at base of plants to water them, until I discovered I was drowning useful black beetles as they hid underneath the pots, so don't do it now. Plastic bottles, neck down probably would be safer.
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Message 14
Posted by 1stClassAlan (U2459016) on Tuesday, 1st June 2010
What was the point Toby was making about using thin skinned tomatoes for greenhouse growing since sun through the glass makes thick skin?. I replayed three times and still can not make sense of it and/or have not heard of this effect before.Â
This was one the typical myths and legends that appear in the programme these days without much science behind them.
Genetics aside, any plant which has a soft life will tend towards being more tender than the identical variety grown in harder conditions but if you think that any plant will be soft/ thin skinned etc., just by growing in a greenhouse, I suggest you go cuddle a Cycad - that should change your mind! -
Message 15
Posted by 1stClassAlan (U2459016) on Tuesday, 1st June 2010
Experiments have shown that prolonged exposure to sun through glass can cause though skins, also blotchy ripening Â
Who's experiments? Peer reviewed by whom?
Hence a good reason to shade your greenhouse.
Btw, lack of sun resulting in tomatoes staying on the vine for prolonged periods in the 'green state', can also result in tough skins Â
The reason one should shade a greenhouse is to help prevent scorch - and nothing more. When sunlight passes through glass the wavelength changes whereby most of the radiation is turned into heat energy - you can by comprehensively fried in a greenhouse but you won't get sunburnt.
Lack of sun will not per se cause greenbacking or any other ripening fault as reddening is a totally heat response - hence tomatoes will ripen wrapped in paper in a draw - if put in it in a healthy state.
Toby's demonstration of ring culture was not the best but served a purpose - tomatoes will produce stem roots and giving them some method of obtaining nutrients will increase the yield, particularly later in the season.
BTW I once grew a ton of Tomatoes from a commercial bay - 50 plants that's over 44lbs average - and these were the acceptable fruits only - eight to the pound in my day!
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