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Message 1.Â
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Friday, 8th April 2011
Sorry simply not good enough, another leaden sky show, the man lives in the most overcast place in England .
A bodge job on a lawn, never seen the like, If MD had saved edgeing in trays as recommended on GW often, he would have had a matching lawn . Not that the lawn was much to write home about any way.
He felt spring was starting with the pruning the Limes? Been spring for weeks in my garden , Pruned his fig "no system just making ti up as he go's along" ? He is supposed to be the guiding gardener to the country. not buscking it. He constantly tells us how poorly his garden is maintained, That's leading from the front
Then we have Joe telling someone to send her Slime Flux infected wood to the council green waste. Thus if incorrectly composted (and it happens) spreading the infection to gardens far and wide . You burn infected plants you idiot. Carol popped to another estate garden nothing to do with real gardens. I don't have room for a Henry Moore do you.
The final insult was them asking us to buy a book by the ousted Toby who was it seems not good enough to lead GW. -
Message 2
Posted by geranium (U7743914) on Friday, 8th April 2011
Well yes. I have watched but definitely not the programme for me any more.
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Message 3
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Friday, 8th April 2011
Totally agree...big yawnfest - I want to be enthused
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Message 4
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Friday, 8th April 2011
They realy think we all have estate sized gardens dont they.....Another dark dreary world of gardening for the rich.
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Message 5
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
It was rather laboured, surely they haven't run out of ideas already!
But why didn't 'designer' Joe get to do the Gibberd Garden? -
Message 6
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
At last, someone is coming round to my point of view!
I said from the very first episode how surprised I was about the unkempt state of MD’s garden. Be it the state of his box hedging, neglected apple trees & soft fruit bushes or paths, add to this those pathetic fig trees & ‘lawn’ of last night…..everything he shows is a disaster area!
I reflect that IMHO it reflects badly on ‘the nations head gardener’ and find something slightly amusing about being instructed how to maintain my own garden by him. -
Message 7
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
I reflect that IMHO it reflects badly on ‘the nations head gardener’ and find something slightly amusing about being instructed how to maintain my own garden by him. Â
You're being a bit unfair, David. If his large garden was in pristine condition, there would be much criticism along the lines of 'alright for him', or 'how can he relate to normal gardening', or 'how many skivvies are employed behind the scenes to keep that big estate looking so good'. I rather like to see the 'downside' of the garden, and this doesn't detract in any way from the advise he dispenses.
I wasn't so keen on the 'Carol spot' this week. She seemed to accept every aspect of the statued garden as being amazing. I honestly thought that some of it was hideous. I would have thought a little more objectiveness was called for. Joe visited a garden and ......... well, chopped down a tree. Joe's real forte is his ability to ensure that no-one else can get a word in while he's on-screen. However, I thought it was another reasonable programme for grown-ups. -
Message 8
Posted by PhilandPaula (U14818208) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
Well said. Since the new series started all we've seen is Monty bending down low, smiling at the camera and making excuses about what he has not done in his garden. Please Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú get your act together - basically, the programme is not doing what it should; entertaining and teaching gardeners a few new tips.
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Message 9
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
There is a precedence, Ken. The Magnolias, Clack's Farm, Barnsdale & Barleywood, for instance.
Still, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose. -
Message 10
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
Some people just seem determined to be negative.
I don't want perfection in the presenter's garden. Perfection is subjective, unattainable and dispiriting to lesser gardening mortals. It would mean there was nothing to show us if everything was done in advance and nothing left to tweak or do.
It was clever to show two kinds of pruning - one for form and one for production. There was nothing wrong with the advice on sowing direct and hardening off greenhouse seedlings. I don't have a passion for a perfect lawn so wouldn't go to all that bother but some might.
I enjoyed Carol's slot. Anything that can inform and inspire people to consider height, perspective and form and do more than have a flat rectangular lawn with a 1' border round the edge and a straight path down the middle has to be good and it could be applied to any size of garden.
I really have no time for Joe's presenting style but the content was good for anyone with a diseased or frost bitten cordyline. He must have given hope to all those who grow them.
On the whole, a good programme and I do like the relaxed pace. -
Message 11
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
To the complainers about elitist gardening!
Sowing annuals - fixing patches in lawn, hardening off?
surely the most basic gardening advice for newbies!
It was a good mix this week, and I'm off out to see if my little fig has any life left in it.. -
Message 12
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
"relaxed pace" any more relaxed and it will become comatose. Can't put my finger on why it's not working though ?! It's just boring ;(
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Message 13
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
Monty is wanting viewers to embrace the seasonal rituals of gardening at a pace which connects you with the plants, soil and leaves a legacy.
He's not bothered about 96 plug plants of mixed petunias. -
Message 14
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
Monty is wanting viewers to embrace the seasonal rituals of gardening at a pace which connects you with the plants, soil and leaves a legacy.
He's not bothered about 96 plug plants of mixed petunias. Sorry Colin feeling a bit superior are we, talking down to those who want more from MD. I have never bought a plug plant and hate petunias. But I have no problem if that whats some one wants to do . I follow all the ritual as you call it of the seasons. Although I never thought of gardening as a ritual but enjoyment from hard labour.
The problem I have is the season in Mogadons garden is a least four to six weeks behind mine and many others up and down the land. In mine Hellebores over Daffs over Tulips geting on. Aquilegias with fat buds, roses forming, apple blossom coming. and he is just pruning his apple trees.
And I garden on a small and large scale, a city garden like many others , and a Half acre in France which is being restored to a water meadow, and wildlife garden. But my granny loved a nice petunia. -
Message 15
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
A tad elitist methinks
Like KFG, I want at least a mention of things relevant to most people and their gardens.......and ( although I don't like or have them) more people have bedding plants than have productive figs and pleached lime walks. I have nothing against these, but a timely reminder about keeping bedding frost free and pinching out tips might be a tad more relevant than pruning for shape in a limewalk.
Also, my garden is weeks ahead of his - why concentrate on things which have been done by most of us already? Come on Moga and the Beeb, put a spurt on and get your act together -
Message 16
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
Now this is just a thought.....
do you think your opinions might be taken more seriously by other board members if you didn't use childish nicknames for presenters and imagine that your gardening area is the centre of the world?
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Message 17
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
Now this is just a thought.....
do you think your opinions might be taken more seriously by other board members if you didn't use childish nicknames for presenters and imagine that your gardening area is the centre of the world?
±õÌý Hello noojoy sorry nooj what's wrong with childishness. A happy lot we gardners be. And I do not base my idea on imagining my garden is the center of the world . But based on talking to fellow gardening friends who garden at the tip of Loch Lomand to Stratford up on Avon and Norfolk and Bath. So a pretty wid range of gardens and places . -
Message 18
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
Well said
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Message 19
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
A tad elitist methinks
Like KFG, I want at least a mention of things relevant to most people and their gardens.......and ( although I don't like or have them) more people have bedding plants than have productive figs and pleached lime walks. I have nothing against these, but a timely reminder about keeping bedding frost free and pinching out tips might be a tad more relevant than pruning for shape in a limewalk.
Also, my garden is weeks ahead of his - why concentrate on things which have been done by most of us already? Come on Moga and the Beeb, put a spurt on and get your act together Â
Given what we've seen so far, I don't think anyone would be envious of Monty's figs, lime walks or two acres...given the apparent neglected state of the place. -
Message 20
Posted by honestGreengrass (U11104227) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
Definitely something missing this year. Perhaps it's that the presenters are doing their own thing rather than working together for the programme.
Last weekend, I watched some of the old programmes on Sky TV, on the Blighty channel. Monty, Carol and Joe were presenting from Berryfields and the shows were certainly more lively. -
Message 21
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
There is a bit of an issue over timing. My lime trees aren't pleached, but are bursting bud and I wouldn't want to think about pruning them. The damson, plum and pear trees are covered in blossom. The narcissus are all in full flower and the tulips are opening. I went round the garden tonight and listed 65 different plants in flower. And I'm 80 miles north of Hereford.
Monty and the GW team ought to look at this - the programme should be giving timely advice for the coming week, but they are filming a week before transmission in a garden two weeks behind mine, let alone a garden in the south where statistically most of the viewers are. -
Message 22
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Saturday, 9th April 2011
There is a bit of an issue over timing. My lime trees aren't pleached, but are bursting bud and I wouldn't want to think about pruning them. The damson, plum and pear trees are covered in blossom. The narcissus are all in full flower and the tulips are opening. I went round the garden tonight and listed 65 different plants in flower. And I'm 80 miles north of Hereford.
Monty and the GW team ought to look at this - the programme should be giving timely advice for the coming week, but they are filming a week before transmission in a garden two weeks behind mine, let alone a garden in the south where statistically most of the viewers are. Â Well if any one can get there ear it must be you Trillium . I fear we on here are just allowed to blow off steam . And no one really takes a blind bit of notice. Not one of the shows producers or production team as far as I know have addresed any of the points made on here. But a garden program which is supposed to guide through the year. is no good if it is behind in timing all year
It would be better if points of view was on they seem to like sticking it to shows producers. -
Message 23
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Monday, 11th April 2011
Hello Chaps just to say sent a copy of this to Points of View see if we get a reaction from GW
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Message 24
Posted by lordohlord (U14199660) on Monday, 11th April 2011
Just to say I have put these points to Points of View .So lets see
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Message 25
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Monday, 11th April 2011
There is a bit of an issue over timing. My lime trees aren't pleached, but are bursting bud and I wouldn't want to think about pruning them. The damson, plum and pear trees are covered in blossom. The narcissus are all in full flower and the tulips are opening. I went round the garden tonight and listed 65 different plants in flower. And I'm 80 miles north of Hereford.
Monty and the GW team ought to look at this - the programme should be giving timely advice for the coming week, but they are filming a week before transmission in a garden two weeks behind mine, let alone a garden in the south where statistically most of the viewers are. Â Well if any one can get there ear it must be you Trillium . I fear we on here are just allowed to blow off steam . And no one really takes a blind bit of notice. Not one of the shows producers or production team as far as I know have addresed any of the points made on here. But a garden program which is supposed to guide through the year. is no good if it is behind in timing all year
It would be better if points of view was on they seem to like sticking it to shows producers. The reason why the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú ignore you is that most of the time you spout utter tripe.
Be constructive and they may listen.
I'm so glad your back Monty in a REAL garden in a place that is loved.
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Message 26
Posted by kfgray (U14470933) on Monday, 11th April 2011
There is a bit of an issue over timing. My lime trees aren't pleached, but are bursting bud and I wouldn't want to think about pruning them. The damson, plum and pear trees are covered in blossom. The narcissus are all in full flower and the tulips are opening. I went round the garden tonight and listed 65 different plants in flower. And I'm 80 miles north of Hereford.
Monty and the GW team ought to look at this - the programme should be giving timely advice for the coming week, but they are filming a week before transmission in a garden two weeks behind mine, let alone a garden in the south where statistically most of the viewers are. Â Well if any one can get there ear it must be you Trillium . I fear we on here are just allowed to blow off steam . And no one really takes a blind bit of notice. Not one of the shows producers or production team as far as I know have addresed any of the points made on here. But a garden program which is supposed to guide through the year. is no good if it is behind in timing all year
It would be better if points of view was on they seem to like sticking it to shows producers. The reason why the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú ignore you is that most of the time you spout utter tripe.
Be constructive and they may listen.
I'm so glad your back Monty in a REAL garden in a place that is loved.
³ÒÌý Ah like all saxon, no good at reason just pushy and rude -
Message 27
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Monday, 11th April 2011
Well if Monty's garden is one thats loved I woudn't like to see one that is hated.......Another hedge ball anybody..ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
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Message 28
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Monday, 11th April 2011
Anyone for a pleached lime walk?? yawn, green box balls?? yawn, brick paths?? yawn, no colour but green and brown...........
Do you have to be charmless to be a Saxon?? -
Message 29
Posted by MrGrinch-Champion of the Middle Saxons (U1934518) on Monday, 11th April 2011
Anyone for a pleached lime walk?? yawn, green box balls?? yawn, brick paths?? yawn, no colour but green and brown...........
Do you have to be charmless to be a Saxon?? No, just a person that loves a REAL garden, with REAL problems and a place that the presenter REALLY cares about.
After a shite weekend at work, its an absolute pleasure to see and hear Monty in his patch.
Long may it continue.
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Message 30
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Monday, 11th April 2011
I always thought we got the pushy and rude bits from the Normans though maybe not the best swear words.
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