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will it be too late?

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  Posted by gone with the fairys (U14602461) on Saturday, 2nd October 2010

  Hi all,
  I get my allotment hopefully by mid november and as it is a new site for all an only just been plowed i was hopeing to get some green stuff into it but will november be too late to sow?
  
  all answers very much appreciated
  
  Donna
  oh an also is 250 sq mt a normal full size plot?
  or dose it vary some what

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  Posted by elderman4 (U10843761) on Saturday, 2nd October 2010

  Congratulations GWTF!! There is little you can put in the plot at that late stage in the year.
  
  I think you it would be better for you to use the time in planning what you are going to grow in the new year. Try to do a list of the varieties you intend to grow, and send off for seed lists etc, these are usually sent free.
  
  Then do a plan of where you intend to sow them and have some idea of the sort of crop rotation you intend to carry out.
  
  If you can do a soil test to see exactly what you have and whether you need to alter the pH in any way, that will also be a good step, and help on your way to success.
  Then when the weather improves next year you are ready to go straight away.
  
  Hope this helps.
  
  

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  Posted by margaretstar (U14415248) on Saturday, 2nd October 2010

  Hi,
  Plot sizes vary. 250 sq metres however is quite a size, you should be able to grow all the veggies that you need, soft fruits, dwarf fruit trees and even some flowers on this and stll have room for a small shed and greenhouse.
  
  It all comes down to planning!
  
  I wouldn't bother too much about planting, but if you can double dig the whole site in the next few months, taking out any weeds,
  roots etc that will be a good start.
  Take a soil sample to find out whether you've got an acid soil or not.
  If acid, work out where you are going to grow what and lime the areas if needs be early 2011.

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  Posted by gone with the fairys (U14602461) on Saturday, 2nd October 2010

  thanks you for your advice it will come in ver usefull
  
  When i said green stuff i ment green manure my own fault or should i not bother this year
  
  thanks
  
  Donna

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  Posted by zoomer44 (U14019069) on Saturday, 2nd October 2010

  It's not to late to plant green manure.
  
  You could also spend time considering if you need any new gardening tools, canes, pots etc.. and also laying some paths if it is a new plot to divide it up theres plenty of time to get recylced materials to do this before the growing season starts again in the spring.
  
  Fruit trees/bushes can be planted now and again in February - gooseberry, black/red and white currant,

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  Posted by farmerSteve (U2644680) on Sunday, 3rd October 2010

  
  There are some crops you can plant in November
  Broad beans spring cabbage plants etc. Beware of pigeons you may need to net
  You say the plot has been ploughed that is a good start
  I would make a plan on a piece of paper
  Divide up your plot into workable sections
  Thoses areas where you are going to put brassicas if you can get any muck apply it to those plots also anywhere destined for courgettes runner beans sweetcorn etc in fact it will not do much harm to anywhere if you can get enough.
  Plan out some path ways so you can avoid walking on anywhere to be planted
  It will also be a good idea to cover all areas with weed suppressing material either the commercial which is not expensive or old carpet (which I think is very ugly) this will need holding down so it does not lift in the wind

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