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If you have nothing to worry about - plant early.

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  Posted by Kleftiwallah (U13700999) on Sunday, 12th December 2010

  are there any positive reasons for 'overwintering' crops ? I've got onions and sweet peas in toilet tubes, I've got brassicas looking sorry for themselves in raised beds. All I'm getting is worried about them crops What (if any) are the good points? I have enogh to worry about anyway.
  
  Why not say, " Right, that's it, the ground is in as good a condition as I can get it, so now I can sit back and wait for the Sun to rise over the yardarm and it's time to get back on the land. Time to go back? Cheers, Tony.

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  Posted by zoomer44 (U14019069) on Sunday, 12th December 2010

  I thought the same thing but then considered some veg we are led to believe apparently does grow better sown in the autumn so I'm prepared to give it a try with garlic and beans this year.
  
  I tried christmas spuds which have been a bit of a disaster and may not try next year, if I do then I'll be looking to planting them earlier, knowing after the foliage dies back they can be left in their bags until Christmas.
  
  I'm not so sure about the benifits of over wintering other veg but have been expanding my interest to growing flowers from seed, sweetpea and cornflowers seem to benifit from autumn sowings and there are alot of flower seeds which need to be sown during the cold months to break their dormancy.

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  Posted by Kleftiwallah (U13700999) on Sunday, 12th December 2010

  Am I being succourd to the planting by the phases of the moon ? spooky ? Cheers, Tony/

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  Posted by margaretstar (U14415248) on Monday, 13th December 2010

  well planting out garlic in October defo,defo works better for me!
  
  I'm talking about the hard-necked type, German (red) rumbacole in particular.
  
  Planted in autumn I get no problems like blue mould on the cloves because they are up and growing before this storage problem can be a problem at all.
  
  Size of cloves is substantially bigger - on average I get about 100gr of peeled cloves from each bulb.
  
  The rumbacoles produce large strongly flavoured cloves with just a single hard layer of skin to peel.
  I thoroughly recommend them even though you can't plait them. The books say they don't store quite as well as the soft neck varieties, but I haven't noticed much of a difference really, I store them loose in an airy, cool shed.

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  Posted by John (U14257971) on Monday, 13th December 2010

  I live and garden in Central Scotland and assume all these exhortations to plant vegetables in the autumn to make them a few weeks earlier are for Southerners.
  The only practise that is worthwhile for me is planting garlic in Oct/Nov. As for the rest if the deer, rabbits, pigeons and mice don't get them the weather will.

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  Posted by garyhobson (U11055016) on Monday, 13th December 2010

  There was an interesting edition of Countryfile, about a month ago, and their resident farmer, Adam, was explaining that farmers sow cerial seed in the Autumn, for the following season.
  
  The little plants don't actually make any growth during the Winter, but they do have a significant head start come Spring. That makes it worthwhile for farmers to do this.

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  Posted by John (U14257971) on Tuesday, 14th December 2010

  The reason farmers sow winter wheat, barley and rape in the autumn is because they need to be vernalised - subject to a prolonged cold spell before they can flower properly the following year - just like garlic which doesn't divide into cloves unless it has a cold period.

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