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Garlic in pots??
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Message 1.Â
Posted by ted1green (U13871363) on Sunday, 20th February 2011
hi having failed to grow garlic in my failed vegetable plot, which was in fairly dry shade under a large birch tree! (because it was the only available area i had) i am looking to try growing veg it containers in my sunny patio spot the only info i have found on garlic in pots seems to suggest that each clove must have its own 6" pot. this would mean any small pots any advice/ successes please
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Message 2
Posted by Mike (U14311251) on Sunday, 20th February 2011
I think garlic likes lots of water, as mine outside have had loads during winter and still going strong. Sounds like they dried out too much under the tree.
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Message 3
Posted by ted1green (U13871363) on Sunday, 20th February 2011
have you tried them in pots
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Message 4
Posted by Happy Violas (U13861656) on Sunday, 20th February 2011
I grow garlic successfully in long plastic troughs. I plant the cloves December and cover with chicken wire to prevent the magpies pulling them out. They're now 6 inches tall and growing strong.
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Message 5
Posted by Italophile (U12516505) on Tuesday, 22nd February 2011
The tree roots - competing for moisture - and the shade would have made life very difficult for the garlic.
You need at least a 6" pot with some depth to it. Garlic needs its space. -
Message 6
Posted by ted1green (U13871363) on Wednesday, 23rd February 2011
6" pots it is then every one seems to say the same. not pretty though so im going to try them in my rabbit pen which is screened by a trellis as i dont think rabits will eat this. we will see.
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Message 7
Posted by koala_girl (U12702629) on Wednesday, 23rd February 2011
When I ran out of space in my garden I planted 4 cloves in an old recycling box and they did very well. I sowed radishes in the same box to save wasting soil. Radishes grow very quickly and they didn't interfere with the garlic.
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Message 8
Posted by ted1green (U13871363) on Friday, 25th February 2011
will do radishes too then. but i had better hurry with the garlic its still not in
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Message 9
Posted by Gail_j (U7492874) on Friday, 25th February 2011
Having had garlic rust for two years now, I am growing my garlic in pots. They look healthy so far.
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Message 10
Posted by Niblet (U14438752) on Friday, 25th February 2011
I planted mine in very large flexi trugs just after xmas and they are already up! I have 2" green shoots poking out of the compost. I am going to sow a few paris market mini carrots in between to use the space and protect the carrots from carrot fly.
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Message 11
Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Sunday, 27th February 2011
I dug up my Garlic bed from last year; it had mixed success due to continued blue bell invasion! NOW(!) I have got a clear bed and replanted with onion sets yesterday.
I shall get garlic cloves, again and try them in a different bed ,starting in the next day or two. People say "plant in December" but they grow easily and well, and even if they flower, you have then got the seed (micro-mini cloves) and dividing cloves still in the ground for the coming year.
You can even dig them up and replant after propagating by division, at any time.
Don't confuse them with blue bells though, since they are very poisonous!
Am I right in thinking that the Garlic is particularly primitive in its reproduction in that the seeds themselves are remarkably similar to the cloves, just much,much smaller?
I've got broad beans in pots, planted outside three weeks ago, so pots must be good. I shall be able to compare them with the beans in the open bed planted 3 weeks later, which you might also do with the garlic cloves. Plant some more now and compare with the December planted ones, after deciding how to deal with them, later in the year. -
Message 12
Posted by realfood (U13916672) on Sunday, 27th February 2011
Only hardneck garlic produces heads of bulbils( not seeds) which when planted will grow into a small garlic in their first year.
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Message 13
Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Monday, 28th February 2011
bulbils( not seeds)Â
They just look like big seeds to me , but I am sure there is a scientific difference, ie as above that they are a more primitive plant, and are therefore bulbils not seeds, and function differently.
Bulb-il Bulb-tiny ? A tiny bulb but not a seed. A bulbil might only fall to the ground and not disperse in the same way as seeds? -
Message 14
Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Monday, 28th February 2011
Bulbil:
A small or secondary bulb; hence, now almost exclusively: An aerial bulb or deciduous bud, produced in the leaf axils, as in the tiger lily, or relpacing the flowers, as in some onions, and capable, when separated, of propagating the plant; -- called also bulblet and brood bud.
seed:
A ripened plant ovule containing an embryo; propagative part of a plant, as a tuber or spore.
The bulbil does not contain an embyro although it MAY be a 'propagative' part of the plant?
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Message 15
Posted by ted1green (U13871363) on Tuesday, 15th March 2011
Ive only just planted my garlic this weekend. all correctly in 6" pots with grit and free draining soil but after all this effort and research i am probably just to late oh well its all learning.........and i forgot the radishes i will pop them in today
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Message 16
Posted by Niblet (U14438752) on Tuesday, 15th March 2011
They'll grow, but you will probably have small cloves
You can still use small cloves to cook with of course and you can plant the individual cloves again at the traditional time this autumn for a better crop next year.
Just checking... you are not planning to sow the radish into those 6" pots are you? Because the garlic will need the whole pot to reach maximum size; you don't want to limit the yield even further -
Message 17
Posted by ted1green (U13871363) on Thursday, 17th March 2011
well the radishes were a suggestion from another 'poster' but then i remembered that the pots are in the rabbits run (its very large & the sunniest part of the garden) the hope is they wont eat the garlic. but i think they would nibble the radishes, so the answer is no the garlic will remain on its own, lets hope we have a long summer........
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Message 18
Posted by Rob H (U14817456) on Friday, 18th March 2011
If you can get hold of some white Polystyrene fish boxes, approx 2 feet long and a 1 foot wide, most are about 8 / 10 inches deep, these are excellent for growing things garlic, lettuces, radishes, etc. They do come in bigger sizes, but this size is more manageable, they also have holes so are great for drainage. good luck
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Message 19
Posted by koala_girl (U12702629) on Friday, 18th March 2011
I grow radishes with my garlic, but they are in a big recycling bin with plenty of room. I wouldn't do it in a smaller pot.
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Message 20
Posted by ted1green (U13871363) on Sunday, 27th March 2011
my radishes are now finally planted in a large trough container. and my garlic is growing all be it with a few nibbles from either the rabbits or a squirrel but i think they have now got the message that its not very palatable for them, lets see
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Message 21
Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Sunday, 27th March 2011
Livestock generally does not like onions or garlic, although the squirrel had one of my shallots a couple of weeks ago. He probably did not eat it, just took it some place and re buried it, the way they do. Not even deer like onion and garlic, or possibly even Allium of any sort.
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Message 22
Posted by margaretstar (U14415248) on Monday, 28th March 2011
Rabbits will nibble at garlic and onion though it is not a "favourite".
Annoyingly they will snip them clean off just where the white bit starts.
I guess it's sweeter there and they take that. Not decimation as such, but a single garlic bulb is worth quite a lot if you haven't planted a lot so when it's taken out this way it can be annoying! -
Message 23
Posted by ted1green (U13871363) on Friday, 1st April 2011
i think they are coming around to the idea that they don't like garlic! lets hope because its my sunniest spot but the best location for the rabbits run etc too. i think though i might use their whole and large run to try out rabbit proof plants, so this may be interesting. their waste does make my compost speed up great though, and they eat all my weeds including ground elder which they have demolished. they are great recycle bins too so they have their uses.
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