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Message 1.Â
Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Wednesday, 23rd March 2011
I completely skewed my tomato seedlings and now it is too late but if the season
in Scotland is three weeks later do i not still have a chance here in the south?
I am installing my own self build greenhouse. Does that give me an extra three weeks' grace at the end of the season, provided I grow them on under the polythene, or put polythene over in September? -
Message 2
Posted by cufcskim (U14483815) on Wednesday, 23rd March 2011
too late?
I might sow mine in around a month. -
Message 3
Posted by Italophile (U12516505) on Wednesday, 23rd March 2011
Go for it, gardda!
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Message 4
Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Wednesday, 23rd March 2011
Under glass sow, on a window sill sow, or in a propagator sow?
I do now have a very good position indeed for growing on during the summer which is why I am keen to "go for it!".
The oil tank has been moved providing 8cu m of warm walls, away from predators.
About 30 years ago i had a lucky season with green tomatoes, about 20kgs of them outside. It must have been pure luck. -
Message 5
Posted by jamie01 (U14066574) on Wednesday, 23rd March 2011
I have mine in propagators at various stages of pretty small! I will be sowing a 3rd variety this afternoon, so you'll have plenty of time and choice, though mine will be potted on when ready and straight into the greenhouse. Happy growing.
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Message 6
Posted by Italophile (U12516505) on Wednesday, 23rd March 2011
In a propogator will probably get you there quickest.
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Message 7
Posted by Kleftiwallah (U13700999) on Wednesday, 23rd March 2011
I'll stick mine in manana ! Cheers, Tony.
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Message 8
Posted by DiggerSean (U14704361) on Thursday, 24th March 2011
I haven't sown mine yet but will do in the next couple of weeks. I've tried sowing earlier in the past to get a flying start but the young plants just struggle along and later sowings soon catch up when the weather and light conditions get better.
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Message 9
Posted by Logissimo (U14020652) on Friday, 25th March 2011
Since nobody seems to have addressed your last question, our tomatoes continued to ripen in the GH right until December. Then I pulled up the plants and ripened the remaining fruit indoors, eating the last (they were admittedly cooked!) sometime in January. So you get early cropping and extended cropping.
I agree that it is not too late to get them going; I always regret starting too early and having to plant out when they are pot bound rather than when the weather is right.
I pricked out the last of mine today, if you can pop over to France for the weekend you can have some!
Good luck with the GH installation L -
Message 10
Posted by horththit (U13862695) on Saturday, 26th March 2011
If anyone is interested, taking cuttings works well. Leave a few nodal shoots to grow to about 4 inches, pinch them out and stick them in some compost. As they are the same age as the parent plant, they do produce fruit. Handy if you find you don't have enough plants, or if you have an accident or to extend the season.
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Message 11
Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Sunday, 27th March 2011
Logissimo,
Thank you for that learnéd reply!
I shall start again.
early cropping and extended cropping.Â
As far as food value is concerned, buying a tin of peeled plum tomatoes for 32p or similar takes some beating, but nowhere can one buy organic fresh tomatoes
for at least twice that price. Variety of diet is the name of the game.
Buying neither, and growing one's own, is therefore a certain economy, just the same as my successful efforts at brewing cider; I drink it all through until the following year, but my god, is it hard work doing the Harvest, just on three trees!Bless 'em all!
I don't even need to buy coffee, such is the satisfaction of the home brewed drink. -
Message 12
Posted by 4smilingcat6 (U14338727) on Sunday, 27th March 2011
It certainly isn`t too late to sow,especially for outdoor growing as you do not want to be planting them out until well into May
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Message 13
Posted by BensGrandad (U7827628) on Monday, 28th March 2011
I am intrigued by the good points I read about Balconi red and Balconi Yellow Tomatoes + Black Russian (Beefsteak) is it too late to sow these in seed form now. Ordering the seeds on line they would be here within 48 hours my aim is to sow them in my airing cupboard and then put them out to my greenhouse. Am I in time to do this.
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Message 14
Posted by jamie01 (U14066574) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
I am intrigued by the good points I read about Balconi red and Balconi Yellow Tomatoes + Black Russian (Beefsteak) is it too late to sow these in seed form now. Ordering the seeds on line they would be here within 48 hours my aim is to sow them in my airing cupboard and then put them out to my greenhouse. Am I in time to do this. Nothing ventured nothing gained, go for it.
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Message 15
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Wednesday, 30th March 2011
I haven't sown mine yet but will do in the next couple of weeks. I've tried sowing earlier in the past to get a flying start but the young plants just struggle along and later sowings soon catch up when the weather and light conditions get better,Â
Totally agree, was a bit too eager last year in mid March and lost tomato, runner beans and various flower seedlings in a lean too greenhouse.
Will be certainly more circumspect this year and will probably start things off second week in April and I am in SW Wales so quite mild.
I don't think this early planting gains a lot since the speed and health of growth later on far outways any early gains most of the time IMHO. -
Message 16
Posted by Swedboy (U14400604) on Thursday, 31st March 2011
I've grown yellow balconii and they where great.
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Message 17
Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Thursday, 31st March 2011
I think when I posted this thread I had set the seeds in the 2cmx1cm squared pots, about 100 altogether, far too ambitious for a beginner, but if you get a hundred seeds why not plant them all?
But when surprise surprise they all came up, I did not know how quickly to deal with them to put them in to 5cm pots individually. This tomato planting is highly professional on account of the temperature requirements eh?!
I think also their ambient temperature can be reduced once they have germniated. Isn't it the germination temperature which has to be quite high to be successful but after germination they can cope with down to say 50*f without any problem.
Thus if ten days ago I had repotted in to much larger pots, they would probably have taken to them very well,
I just looked at them and thought to myself "how clever!"
Handling of the seedlings is another question. I have got some Peppers growing from about the same planting time, and they didn't mind being handled to repot them. I did so, with tweezers and a pair of optivisor specs
and that was fine. I do the same when planting the seeds in to the compost.
I have always been interested in roots; ( an effective method of weeding!)
The tomato seedling roots go deep very quickly as far as i can see, so if they are in 2cm x1cm (100) trays they need to be moved pretty darn quick after shooting up., otherwise they wilt and fail.
(By the way Broad bean roots are very interesting indeed for their symmetry) -
Message 18
Posted by Italophile (U12516505) on Thursday, 31st March 2011
Tomato seedlings are pretty hardy things and actually benefit from an early transplant. It gives the root system a jolt, a kick along. I transplant mine at cotyledon stage. When transplanting, they should be planted deep, right down to the first leaves (or cotyledons in my case). Everything underground will turn into root structure.
And, yes, they don't need as much warmth post-germination. 25C is ideal for germination. Post-germination you can get away with down to 15C. What they need more than warmth is light. As much as possible. -
Message 19
Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Thursday, 31st March 2011
Ital,
Thanks Very helpful. -
Message 20
Posted by 4smilingcat6 (U14338727) on Friday, 1st April 2011
Black Russian (Beefsteak) is it too late to sow these in seed form now..
Black Russian is not a beefsteak,more a standard sized fruit. What makes it outstanding is the complexity of it`s flavour. A lot goes on in your mouth when eating one.
Certainly not too late to sow-they ripen out of doors here on the Lincs/Cambs border-under shelter is better but as I sell the plants I have trialed them outside and the crop was more than acceptable
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