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  Posted by billyblob (U14390155) on Tuesday, 17th May 2011

  Hi All,
  Sorry if this thread has already been covered on the board . I planted onions/garlic and shallots in October and they have done quite well despite the big freeze/drought. The million dollar question is when do I harvest? I have already pulled one flower spike off the onions.
  Thanks in advance.
  Bill

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  Posted by CaptainZucchini (U14832117) on Wednesday, 18th May 2011

  For overwintering onion the recommendation is to stat picking them as needed, as soon as they are large enough; they tend not to store well. Harvest your garlic and shallots when the leaves turn yellow; lay the bulbs in a dry and airy place until they are 'rustling' dry, and then store.

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  Posted by gaffelbiter (U14481810) on Wednesday, 18th May 2011

  I planted Garlic ' Marco ' on September 25th , it is yellowing already and it has had plenty of water. I lifted one at the weekend and I was a bit disappointed in the size ; perfectly usable but not a prize winner, to be fair I garden in Edinburgh not the Isle of Wight. I must say the flower spikes are tasty . I've had them in a stir-fry and in salads.

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  Posted by zoomer44 (U14019069) on Wednesday, 18th May 2011

  I planted garlic last year September/October time. It's looking good above ground but the anticipated bulging prize winning bulbs just peeping above the furface haven't materialised yet.
  
  Wish they'd get a move on, I had visions of a long string of platted garlic hanging in the kitchen by now so it would be intresting to know when they can be harvested. We've had enough rain these past few weeks to flood the sahara so they've had plenty of water.
  
  

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  Posted by gaffelbiter (U14481810) on Wednesday, 18th May 2011

  I think mine need to be lifted in the next couple of weeks . I am told that Garlic acclimatises to local conditions, I intend to save the biggest cloves to plant in the Autumn . I do think if you live in areas where conditions are less than ideal, it is better to plant in Autumn than in early Spring.

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  Posted by Swedboy (U14400604) on Wednesday, 18th May 2011

  Mine where planted last autumn but they have still to show any tendency to to start die down.

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  Posted by gaffelbiter (U14481810) on Wednesday, 18th May 2011

  Your garlic is still growing by the sound of it , I am no expert on growing garlic or anything for that matter, however since I got my allotment 14 years ago I have found some gardening writers that give sage advice, first amongst these is Joy Larkom .

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  Posted by Lizmunstone (U6711031) on Thursday, 19th May 2011

  Definitely leave the garlic until the leaves start to wither for the biggest bulbs. And then follow the advice given about saving the largest cloves to plant next autumn. I've been doing this for 10 years or more and now get huge garlic, from wet, heavy, Herefordshire soil, so I do really think they have acclimatised themselves.

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  Posted by whatalottie (U9072847) on Monday, 23rd May 2011

  Off the subject slightly, but my Bangladeshi friend was horrified that I was going to dispose of the central spike. She said it mades lovely 'chutney', that lovely one with fresh tomato and sliced onion.
  
  I've tried it and it is very nice, the sliced spikes are a little more delicate than onion rings. Waste not...
  
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  Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Thursday, 26th May 2011

  I have given up trying to grow Allium from cloves.
  
  I bought some bulbs last year. they have all done well but, if my Garlic efforts are anything to go by, I have got to do "Bulbil" growing in future not growing on of clove segments.
  
  In deed all these garden bulbs may be dealt with in that way, daffodils, tulips, begonia, Allium the lot and I am beginning to think that without growing them that way one's knowledge and growing skill is seriously limited, by others intent on making the real profit from garden/ horticultural soil.
  
  Tulips take up to ten years but if i am planting a Fruit tree fro perhaps a 100 years or 130 why should I not plant "bulbils" and seeds for 10?? Is there something clever about cloves, and sets?

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  Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Thursday, 26th May 2011

  I have given up trying to grow Allium from cloves.
  
  I bought some bulbs last year. they have all done well but, if my Garlic efforts are anything to go by, I have got to do "Bulbil" growing in future not the growing on of clove segments.
  
  In deed all these garden bulbs may be dealt with in that way, daffodils, tulips, begonia, Allium, the lot, and I am beginning to think that, without growing them that way, one's knowledge and growing skill is seriously limited, by others intent on making the real profit from garden/ horticultural soil.
  
  Tulips take up to ten years but if i am planting a Fruit tree fro perhaps a 100 years or 130 why should I not plant "bulbils" and seeds for 10?? Is there something clever about cloves, and sets?
  
  Onions 2 years
  Garlic 2 years
  Daffodils 3-5 years
  Begonia probably five years.

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  Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Thursday, 26th May 2011

  If you look up Life Cycle of theAllium on Google you will find a vast amount of information about the different species.
  
  There are 600 in the genus. I have got 4 very pretty ones indeed.
  I think i know what two of them are. The Allium Sativa and the Allium Mt Everest.
  I have very pretty small ones as well,red and blue. Names elude me, but i shall take a picture and search for them.
  
  I currently have the seed heads, after the flower on all four so I am thinking what I shall do with the seeds when they seem to be ripe.
  
  Somebody suggested replanting the seeds straight away, but I am not sure about that.
  
  The meaning of the word "scape" eludes me for the moment.
  
  Dashing out and buying more Bulbs to augment the crop is not the answer, although a few more species to get on with would be interesting.
  
  My onion seed species, which I planted in a rows, like Monty said, are doing ok. following them will give me a clearer idea of how to proceed with all the others.
  
  Allium seed packets will be bought.
  
  Also somebody suggested "modules". Are modules the things which come in hundreds and are about 1cm square?
  
  How does one plant seed in modules since the seed is so small any way.
  my Optivisor would not be sufficient magnification to be accurate; or would it?
  
  Would I bring Allium seed on better by using modules in the GH, at this time of year, or just plant in rows outside carefully? I would not want to waste seed!

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