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Apple trees and types of fruit bearing

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  Posted by Thomas5184 (U14959409) on Friday, 12th August 2011

  I have three apple trees (new this year). I understand that some apple trees are spur fruiting, and some are tip/semi tip fruiting.
  
  My Gala apple has already blossomed and bearing fruit, and is almost certainly spur fruiting.
  
  The other two trees are Golden Delicious and Brambley's Seeding (yet to fruit). I would like to know whether they are Spur or Tip fruiting, so that I can prune correctly to get the best crops.
  
  I am told they are on either M26 or MM106 stocks, and so I will want to grow them as either cordon or bush.
  
  Can anyone provide the information or advise where I can get it.

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  Posted by BaraGwenith (U14257539) on Friday, 12th August 2011

  Bramleys are triploid partial spur bearing so they will bear on the tips too. Explore the RHS site as there is lots about the bearing habit and pruning of various rootstocks etc.
  
  MM106 Semi-dwarfing. 9-11ft (2.7-3.5m), slightly wider spread. Crops within 3-4years.Tolerates wide range of soils, can be grown is grass. Grow as centre leader, bush tree, cordon, espalier. Needs stake for 5 years in exposed position Plant 8-12ft apart, 12ft between rows. Yield 50-100lbs. As espalier plant 15ft apart. Yield from 3 tiers 25 - 40 lb
  
  M26 Semi-dwarfing. 8-10ft (2.4-3.7m), slightly wider spread. Crop within 3 years. Tolerate average soil, can be grown in grass. Grow as centre leader, pyramid, bush tree, cordon, espalier. Needs stake as bush tree for 5 years, permanent stake as centre leader. Plant 8-12ft (2.4-3.7m), 8-12ft between rows. Yield 30-50lb. Cordon plant 2-3ft apart, yield 6-8lb. Espalier 15ft apart. Yield from three tiers 25-40lb
  
  Hope this helps.

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  Posted by BaraGwenith (U14257539) on Friday, 12th August 2011

  And here's a site you might like www.orangepippin.com.

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  Posted by Papa Nopsis (U14479902) on Saturday, 13th August 2011

  I don't know about 25-40lbs. This orange pippin type fruit has more than half a ton on it. 1120lbs or more.
  
  It is probably at its prime now, about 40 years old.
  
  Rev Wlikes which I planted 2 years ago will be a garden champion too.
  
  Thanks for the pippin link. The distinction between spur and node pruning I would have to test before I believe it/accept it. It is probably just a matter of preference. Rather like people who try to distinguish between cotoneaster veticalis and horizontalis, being impressed by the Latin nomenclature, think it some kind of genetic definition, whereas in fatc it is merely the way it has been pruned or trained.
  
  Similar/Same for the apple methods mentioned above.
  
  Obviously if you are growing against a wall, you inna goinna let it just hang loose.

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