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Don't talk to me about grenhouses.

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  Posted by Don Kidick (U13987773) on Thursday, 1st December 2011

  Morning everyone.
  
  As you are all probably aware I have recently took over an allotment and am in the process of getting it the way I want it and ready for spring.
  
  I have managed to get hold of 2 6 x 8 greenhouses and would like to here peoples ideas and advice on what I should do with them
  
  My initial thoughts were to erect them together to make one long greenhouse (16 x 6), is this the best way or should I have 2 separate ones?
  
  Should I have beds in them or a solid base?
  
  If I do have beds should they be raised?
  
  What is the best thing to set them on? Flags? Bricks? Wood? Straight to soil?
  
  Any help tips or advice would be appreciated.
  
  
  Cheers. Don.
  
  

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  Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Thursday, 1st December 2011

  I would keep them separate so that in winter you can easily insulate both for extra protection but just heat one if extra warmth is needed for some plants. You could set on on a solid base and have soil in the other.
  
  I too have a 6 x 8 which was erected on a gravelled area at the back of the house but it received too little light so has now been moved to a position in full sun but next to a 2 m hedge which gives protection from prevailing winds. It is now on soil and I have used square decking boards to make a path up the middle and kept soil beds either side.
  
  To make sure it' square and secure, we sunk short posts in concrete at each corner and then screwed the base boards to those before erecting the rest of the frame and installing the glass panes. The bed on the sunny side is now planted with cavolo nero and winter lettuce, all doing well.
  
  On the north side I have built a wooden frame to support mesh shelves from old plastic greenhouses and these hold small pots and seedlings. In the soil bed on that side I have plunged pots of clematis and a rose and larger cuttings and seedlings as it's been too dry to plant them out in the garden and will soon be too cold to risk them.

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  Posted by Don Kidick (U13987773) on Monday, 5th December 2011

  I know I titled this post ‘Don't talk to me about greenhouses’, but I didn’t really mean don’t talk to me!
  
  
  Thanks for the reply and advice Obelixx, I will bare in mind what you have said.
  
  Anyone else got any ideas for me?
  
  Cheers. Don.
  
  P.S.
  
  Anyone wondering what a grenhouse is?

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  Posted by johnjake (U15039133) on Monday, 5th December 2011

  
  
  P.S.
  
  Anyone wondering what a grenhouse is?
  nope just figured to you forgot to used spell check before posting your message.

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  Posted by Don Kidick (U13987773) on Monday, 5th December 2011

  Can you use spell check on here?

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  Posted by cherrytree (U9175528) on Monday, 5th December 2011

  And that's coming from you of all people? Talk about pots and kettles.

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  Posted by Don Kidick (U13987773) on Monday, 5th December 2011

  And that's coming from you of all people? Talk about pots and kettles.  ?????????
  
  

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  Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Monday, 5th December 2011

  Don-calm down, calmdown-the comment is aimed at the message 4 poster.
  
  Coming back your question in my experience of greenhouse erecting which amounts to one -this was on a fixed base that I bought with the greenhouse-just allow 10 times more time than you think you will need ,be prepared for a lot of frustration and bad language but ultimately a glow of smugness and self-satisfaction.
  
  Good luck.
  
  Geoff.

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  Posted by zoomer44 (U14019069) on Monday, 5th December 2011

  When you say you have come by two GH's, did they come from a shop with full distructions or are they recylced.
  
  If the latter be there when they are dismantled and mark every pane of glass, take pictures of what they looked like when standing and buy new clips, nuts and bolts ready for when you put them back together.
  
  I've a 6 by 8 GH and put mine on a flagged base with no flags in the middle so have a bed down one side and gravel path in the middle with a flagged area going all the way round. I put it up off centre so theres plenty of room on two sides for grow bags and pots. The gravel path can be watered down thereby I can to some extent have some control over the humidity inside on hot days.
  
  I would be inclined not to join them together and do as obelixx suggests. Unless you have problems bending raised beds aren't necessary, just an added expense.

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  Posted by johnjake (U15039133) on Tuesday, 6th December 2011

  i prefer things i build have instructions instead of distructions

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  Posted by peter stringer (U15015668) on Thursday, 8th December 2011

  Hi I have a green house on an allotment I dug a trench and put in shuttering and made a concrete base about a 8" wide all round it was slightly raised as this was a cheap greenhouse and the roof height was not great. Note though the green house said it was 7x5 it was larger and as I was using a narrow concrete foundation I have to correct the shuttering it would have been easier to measure the base first. I then put a row of small paving slabs down the middle as a path put a raised bed in on each side.I also fixed the greenhouse to the concrete while it was still green. Don't forget to save the water from the roof it stops it undermining the foundations
  I also bought aload of Ikea's cheapest wooden shelveing 300mm wide it just fits a seed tray I put plastic caps on the base of the uprights . I now have a green house full of adjustable shelving which I take down and use outside when I am growing melons in the beds but leave up full of young plants the rest of the time.
  As far as fixing the two greenhouses( I envy the space) together I would go for it, but make sure you can devide the internal space to save on heating . If you are doing anything fancy like growing exotics you might like to have two seperate environments. There is no spellchecker dsylexics rule KO

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  Posted by Don Kidick (U13987773) on Monday, 19th December 2011

  Thanks for the replies and advice!
  
  Anyone else got any useful hints tips or ideas?
  
  Cheers. Don.
  

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