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tomato varieties for 2012
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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by johnjake (U15039133) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
what new or new to you tomato varieties will you growing in in 2012.
will you be growing red or will you go yellow,green when ripe,pink, striped or will you be try the still experimental blue tomatoes.
will you go cherry,plum(paste) ,pear heart beefsteak for the wildly shaped ruffled varieties. -
Message 2
Posted by bogus the fungi man (U14705597) on Thursday, 15th December 2011
Well Johnjake, I'm not sure about new varieties but I've had two Tumbler toms in two hanging baskets and they have produced just over 21 kg of fruit this year. Hard to believe I know but fantastic flavoured cherry fruit. Not a new one for me but a recommended one for you should you like something that produces yet doesn't take up much room. It does need to be outside and watered every day though!
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Message 3
Posted by Swedboy (U14400604) on Friday, 16th December 2011
I have some free green tomato seeds that I'll try and I'll probably buy some yellow balconii again. They are very nice. Not going to bother with the black Russian again as I don't like the taste of it.
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Message 4
Posted by BigDave (U3975543) on Friday, 16th December 2011
Swedboy are they the Tom's that stay green when there ready to eat mate?
I will be using up all my bits and bobs of tom seeds this year as the kids (we have) sold some of the left over plants on the car boot last year and made a bit of pocket money so.......I've told them they can have all the left overs again this year and they are goig to do the looking after till there ready to pot on in the greenhouse.....less work for dad and I get the pick of the plants first.
As for new one's I never know what mite drop off the rack in to my basket...lol
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Message 5
Posted by Tee Gee (U10012255) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
I don't tend to buy new as such but what I like doing is tasting new varieties at garden shows.
After the tasting if there is any I particulary like the taste of I save a few seeds and grow them on.
Similarly if on the plots, if someone gives me a tomato to taste and I like it, I cadge a tomato and save the seeds.
Of all the tomatoes I grow (see list below) my best by far is one I brought back from Feutaventura about twenty years ago.
This is my list of varieties for next year;
Ailsa Craig; From a freebie packet
Alicante; From a freebie packet.
Anne Marie; A beautiful tasting tomato I got at a tasting at Tatton Park show this year.
Haven't grown it before! So looking forward to growing it next year.
Feurta ; The variety I mentioned above that I brought back from Feurtaventura all those years ago.
Gardeners Delight; Freebie packet
Keith's Plum; A variety I cadged from a fellow plot holder ( Would you believe he was called Keith/)
Mammoth; Another cadged tomato.
Melrow; From a tomato testing session a couple of years ago, as I recall it has been bred specifically for Marks & Spencers as all the tomatoes on the trust are about the same size. i.e. between a cherry and a standard salad variety.
Moneymaker; Freebie packet.
Nectar; Cadged tomato.... Aptly named!
Piccolo; From a tomato tasting session..
A cherry variety that produces dozen of ½" diameter tomatoes per truss.
It is also good for late cropping because as the tomatoes are so small they ripen very quickly meaning you can still harvest them in the autumn sunshine.
Richards; Can you guess? cadged from Richard which will be new for me next year.
San Marzano; Cadged seeds but I am not particulary fond of it prefer Keiths plum to it! so might not grow it!
San Pedro; From a packet of seeds I bought in Spain about ten years ago.
Spanish Moneymaker
Vanessa; A cadged tomato.
I tend to get my sweet peppers in the same manner;
Banana Sweet; Part of a collection I bought a few years ago, not particulary fon of it so there is every possibility I will be binning it!
Calahonda. Seeds I saved from a variety I boght from a supermarket in Spain.
When I saw it on the shelf it was just slightly smaller than a rugby ball, sadly I haven't been able to grow it to that size. I tend to get it to grow 8"-9" long and around 5" diameter.
Its one of my bankers.
Californian Wonder; New for next year, and is part of a collection I bought at £1 packet at Harrogate show.
Largo; From a packet of seed I purchased in Calahonda at the same time as i bought the fresh one above.
Not quite as large about 6" x4" usually.
Luteus; The best yellow on the market but no one seems to sell it anymore so I save seeds each year.
Red; Taken from a fresh pepper bought in some supermarket.
Romano; Part of the collection mentioned above.
Tesco yellow; I think the name speaks for its self
Rainbow; Part of the collection mentioned above.
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Message 6
Posted by Swedboy (U14400604) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
BigDave, the tomato is called green grape and was a freebie. It's green when ripe, I believe.
Can't remember the name of the other poster but I'd like what you mean by caged. Is what when you have harvested the seeds yourself? Had tons of selfseeded tomatoes this year but they were rubbish as all my other were too. -
Message 7
Posted by Inkadog (U14278499) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
I have saved seeds from 3 kinds of heritage tomatoes, and will be giving those a try. At least I know I like the flavor- dont know the name, but a red, a black and a yellow.Quite large.Then will probably do some cherries as well. Like sungold.
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Message 8
Posted by zoomer44 (U14019069) on Saturday, 17th December 2011
It'll be a mix of cherries, plum, pear and the usual medium sized fruit. Red, yellow and stripey.
I've already seeds for these.Some are new, some I tried last year and had problems germniating the seeds, my central heating died as did the seedlings
but not detered bought young plants from the GC
Ailsa craig-trifids- red
Red pear (These got bottom end rot last year as did yellow pear but I'm trying them again) pear-red
Gardeners delight -red
Money maker.-mid size fruit - red
Golden sunrise(new) medium fruit - yellow
Oxheart(new) - large fruit - red
Red cherry.(new)
Christmas grapes(new) - cherry - red
Floridity(new) - plum -red
On the list of seedlings to buy;
Golden nugget -cherry to mid sized fruit - on the label they look yellow but are orange when grown and seem to crop for Britian right through the season,
Red Zebra - meduim to large fruit-yellow and red striped, Not a big cropper but nice and tasty. -
Message 9
Posted by whatalottie (U9072847) on Monday, 2nd January 2012
ROSADA
Don't forget the name, Rosada
It''s simply the best tasting tomato I've grown, and it's very prolific. I's a smallish plum but lots on each 'vine'.
It tastes like tomatoes should, better than almost any variety I've tried (branywine, black russian, rose de berne (although that's very good too)...)
Unfortunately it is F1 and you don't get many seeds for your money, but last year I was away for a vital couple of weeks, and by the time I got back there were quite a few sidshoots. I nipped them out and buried them (VERY deeply) and they grew into good strong plants -the same 'age' as the parent.
I got at least twice as many plants as I'd had seeds! I had enough tomatoes to feed half the flats where I live!
Whatever other varieties I grow rosada will be one of them.
Lottie -
Message 10
Posted by Paull2 (U14064177) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2012
Concur with that. Rosada is a super little plum tom. Floridity, I understand, was supposed to be an 'improved' newer variety from Rosada but the old type is pretty much unbeatable for sweetness and flavour.
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Message 11
Posted by itreesaregreen (U3066222) on Tuesday, 3rd January 2012
Oh dear. I have got black Russian as they looked unusual. Will hope that our tastes differ!!
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Message 12
Posted by Paull2 (U14064177) on Wednesday, 4th January 2012
Not a bad choice by any means. Black Russian, nice rich smokey sort of taste that turns even sweeter when grilled.
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Message 14
Posted by Swedboy (U14400604) on Thursday, 5th January 2012
Do you have a name for a blue one?
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Message 15
Posted by whatalottie (U9072847) on Friday, 6th January 2012
Oh dear. I have got black Russian as they looked unusual. Will hope that our tastes differ!!Ìý Tastes do differ!
I like Black Russian and will probably grow it again.
Rose de Berne is another great flavoured tomato and will certainly go in.
I grow San Marzano for bottling, it makes wonderful tomato sauce etc
I've grown Brandywine before, but I've read that "it's wonderful in it's year", it wasn't it's year.
I'd like to try oxheart
Apart from that I'll grow any tomato coming my way that tastes good! We have a seed swap on our site. -
Message 16
Posted by John Moodie (U14353581) on Saturday, 7th January 2012
I tried the Purple Cherokee last year. I will stick with them. Better flavour than the Black Russian, if that's possible. And I will stick with a large red that I have been growing for a few years. Don't know the name as the seeds were collected in eastern Canada and sent to me. Very meaty and very few seeds.
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Message 17
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Saturday, 7th January 2012
I am looking for a good beefsteak tomato and have found one called Mortgage Lifter-has anybody any experience of this variety?-or can recommend an alternative-this is for cold greenhouse cultivation.
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Message 18
Posted by Italophile (U12516505) on Wednesday, 11th January 2012
Mortgage Lifter's a nice beefsteak variety, one of the many, usually around 1 1/2 to 2 pounds. It's mid-late season, 70-75 days to maturity, so bear that in mind. There's a nice story about its origins and naming, but, sadly, apocryphal. The chap who developed the variety was said to be in dire straits financially, grew a huge crop of them, sold them, paid off his mortgage.
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Message 19
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Wednesday, 11th January 2012
Thanks for that-my feeling is I will go for this
Nice to hear from you again -belated new year wishes-I am sure you will be needed a lot when the tomato season gets growing again -
Message 20
Posted by Italophile (U12516505) on Wednesday, 11th January 2012
Greetings back to you. I hibernate in winter. Just poked my head out, saw a tomato thread, couldn't resist. The ground is frozen solid outside. Back into my warm cave for now.
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Message 21
Posted by buckoastjane (U15098362) on Saturday, 14th January 2012
ROSADA
Don't forget the name, Rosada
It''s simply the best tasting tomato I've grown, and it's very prolific. I's a smallish plum but lots on each 'vine'.
It tastes like tomatoes should, better than almost any variety I've tried (branywine, black russian, rose de berne (although that's very good too)...)
Unfortunately it is F1 and you don't get many seeds for your money, but last year I was away for a vital couple of weeks, and by the time I got back there were quite a few sidshoots. I nipped them out and buried them (VERY deeply) and they grew into good strong plants -the same 'age' as the parent.
I got at least twice as many plants as I'd had seeds! I had enough tomatoes to feed half the flats where I live!
Whatever other varieties I grow rosada will be one of them.
Lottie
Ìý Was Rosada once recommended on GW? Last year or year before? I used to grow Marshall's Vicky but I didn't save seed and they no longer have it. Is Rosada an outdoor variety? -
Message 22
Posted by whatalottie (U9072847) on Friday, 24th February 2012
I grow Rosada outside, as well as in my polytunnel. The outside ones were fine, a little later than the inside ones, but they did well. I should start them early if you're growing them outside.
Lottie -
Message 23
Posted by Italophile (U12516505) on Sunday, 26th February 2012
I'm cutting down on the number of varieties this season. My wife wants a few more things out of the orto than tomatoes! So I've started seeds for:
Jaune Negib - a yellow French heirloom variety, produces very early. Not outstanding flavour but I grow them to make yellow pickles;
Cherokee Purple - American heirloom, glorious flavour;
Golden Queen - a very old American heirloom from the late 19th century, a pale gold tom, almost round. Utterly delicious;
Camp Joy (aka Chadwick's Cherry) - heirloom cherry, prolific, excellent flavour, best of the heirloom cherries in my experience;
Marianna's Peace - dark pink heirloom beefsteak, originally from the Bavaria region. One of the greats, even if production is fickle;
Pink Gaetano - another dark pink heirloom beefsteak. Exact origins unknown. When in Australia, my Italian teacher gave me seeds. Her father took the seeds from Calabria to Australia when he emigrated in the late-50s. Unlikely to be Italian originally because there are no known Italian heirloom pink beefsteaks. He called them simply "Sangue", meaning "blood". I named them after him;
Cherokee Chocolate - American heirloom, sister variety to C. Purple, arose from a spontaneous colour gene mutation on a C. Purple plant. As delicious as its close relative;
Anna Russian - pink heart-shaped heirloom, believed originally from Russia in the 1920s. Produces very early for a heart and incredibly prolific. Very delicate, slightly sweet taste. My wife's favourite.
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