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    Posted by BensGrandad (U7827628) on Monday, 27th February 2012

    In order to utilise my allotment plot to its best advantage I would like to sow some veg and then when that is finished or near to sow other types and would like some advice on what can be grown after each other. Obviously things like leeks, sprouts etc stay on the ground for a long time. I was looking at broad beans what can I plant after they have finished. Many thanks for any advice.

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    Posted by georgeandrewwilson (U15165385) on Monday, 27th February 2012

    not too sure what you mean. Second cropping is very dicy in our climate unless the first crop is out early. However I have transplanted carrots and turnips over to ground that had First early potatoes and they done well. Cabbage etc didn't do that well as it was a bit late for them.

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    Posted by zoomer44 (U14019069) on Monday, 27th February 2012

    Hi, BensGrandad,

    Nice to have you back on the boards.

    Last year I grew second sowings in modules of vegs which have shorter growing times to follow on from things like broad beans, beetroot, pea's early, chad, radish, mooli so they were established seedlings when transplanted.

    It was very much a learning curve and I didn't really consider crop rotation. Planted out about July time - turnip/swede did reasonably well producing tennis ball or slightlybigger results by October time. Beetroot was golf ball sized. Celaric and bulb fennel did not do well. I tried khol, as one variety said sow in June these were quite small and should have been sown sooner but transplanted well.

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    Posted by Happy Violas (U13861656) on Monday, 27th February 2012

    We grow leek seedlings in deep trays and then plant then out into the bed the broad beans have been in. The bed has always been well manured and the leeks thrive. It means the bed is in continuous use ....

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    Posted by BensGrandad (U7827628) on Tuesday, 28th February 2012

    That is what I was intending to do use the ground that my broad beans had been in to plant our leeks for the winter. I was wondering what other veg I could do similar with. Perhaps spring cabbage followed by Savoys or January King. Parsnips also take a long time to grow I believe.

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    Posted by Tee Gee (U10012255) on Tuesday, 28th February 2012

    This is not an easy question to answer but I will try.

    You mention Savoys, Late cabbage Parsnips etc and it would seem you are aware that these need a long time to mature so the answer is to find stuff that does not take as long to mature.


    The way I do this is grow LESS of any ONE variety and grow MORE of MANY varieties.

    To explain;

    I rarely if ever grow summer cabbage and use this space for stuff that will only grow in the summer months.

    Some cabbages will grow in winter so why bother about them in summer when I can be growing something a bit more exotic and nutritious, well thats my philosophy and I am sticking to it smiley - winkeye

    For example I use three different varieties of Calabrese/Broccoli and three types of Cauliflower and I have found that this extends my (eating)season.

    To take Calabrese (something I swear by as a catch crop) I start with 'early' varieties such as Chevalier & Green Magic which matures a couple of weeks later than Chevalier.

    This means I cut the head off the Chevalier then follow on with Green Magic.

    Meanwhile side shoots are forming on the Chevalier, these I eat and then find that the Green Magic has produced side shoots so my eating season is spread over a couple of months.

    Meanwhile my late variety has been growing on quite nicely and often matures just as my first two varieties have finished.

    Then I take a gamble on a late winter and sow a few Chevalier and plant them out.

    These are relatively quick growers because the soil is still quite warm something that might not be the case at the first planting!

    If luck is with me ( and it has been 4 out of the last 5 seasons) and the frost doen't get at them I get a crop of heads only, (no side shoots this time I'm afraid,)

    Cauliflower; is similar apart from the side shoots i'e' I use three varieties; Candid Charm, Snow Prince and Thompson as a late variety.

    Another good catch crop is peas, in fact this last two years I have had a better crop from late sowing (July) than the ones I sowed April/May.

    I use Hurst Greenshaft for this.

    Then their are the obvious choices of salad crops lettuce,radish etc.

    With letuuce I find it is better to grow a pinch of seeds in cells at various times of the season then plant out the plugs as gaps appear after harvested crops. This saves on germination times and is more or less 'instant veg'

    So there you are I have tried to answer your query I hope you find my views useful.

    If you want my sowing dates you will find them here;

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    Posted by Tee Gee (U10012255) on Tuesday, 28th February 2012

    By the way I forgot to mention;

    I am Ben's grandad too! smiley - smiley

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