Robert Redford

The Legend of Bagger Vance

Interviewed by James Mottram

Having tackled baseball in "The Natural" and now golf in "The Legend of Bagger Vance", do you see sport as a potent metaphor?

Oh God, yes, absolutely. I'm not interested in a film about golf but I am interested in golf as a metaphor. There's no better metaphor. Sport is a wonderful metaphor for life. Of all the sports that I played - skiing, baseball, fishing - there is no greater example than golf, because you're playing against yourself and nature. There's some force that's bigger than you. You can't completely control the sport - Tiger Woods comes close. The test is against yourself and nature's own way. I find golf a particularly good metaphor for this story.

Did you recognise yourself in Matt Damon's character, the golfer?

Sure, in a general way. He's meant to be a mythological character, like Will Smith's caddy, Bagger Vance. He's meant to be that classic Homer, Ulysses, Hercules - a character who goes out or has some gift of some kind. He goes on a journey of discovery and part of that is falling into darkness - the temptations of life. And you go through this journey to return home a whole person, with life experience and wisdom. It's classic in that sense. Generally speaking, I went through that. I came to a place where I realised what true value was. It wasn't money. Money is a means to achieving an end, but it's not the end.

Do you still enjoy playing golf?

I only played six holes while we were shooting, I was so busy. Golf has become so manicured, so perfect. The greens, the fairways. I don't like golf carts. I like walking. Some clubs won't let you in unless you have a caddy and a cart. I like carrying my own clubs, which is how I started to play. There's something about carrying your own clubs to each ball you hit - the labour of playing the sport, to me, is part of it.