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)}}{\*\pnseclvl9\pnlcrm\pnstart1\pnindent720\pnhang {\pntxtb (}{\pntxta )}}\pard\plain \ltrpar\s1\ql \li0\ri0\keepn\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\outlinelevel0\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 \rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1\afs24\alang1025 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\fs24\lang2057\langfe2057\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp2057 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1\afs20 \ltrch\fcs0 \fs20\insrsid5649561 INTERVIEW WITH JEREMY BEADLE \par Featured in Ouch Podcast }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1\afs20 \ltrch\fcs0 \fs20\insrsid15492982 #3: }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1\afs20 \ltrch\fcs0 \fs20\insrsid5649561 June 2006}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1\afs20 \ltrch\fcs0 \fs20\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0\pararsid5649561 \rtlch\fcs1 \af0\afs20\alang1025 \ltrch\fcs0 \fs20\lang2057\langfe2057\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp2057 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid5649561\charrsid5649561 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 TRANSCRIPT \par \par }{\field\flddirty{\*\fldinst {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 HYPERLINK http://www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/ }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid4481443 {\*\datafield 00d0c9ea79f9bace118c8200aa004ba90b02000000170000001b00000068007400740070003a002f002f007700770077002e006200620063002e0063006f002e0075006b002f006f007500630068002f000000e0c9ea79f9bace118c8200aa004ba90b3600000068007400740070003a002f002f007700770077002e006200 620063002e0063006f002e0075006b002f006f007500630068002f00000000000000}}}{\fldrslt {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \cs15\f1\ul\cf2\insrsid15492982 http://www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/}}}\sectd \linex0\headery709\footery709\colsx709\endnhere\sectdefaultcl\sftnbj { \rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\s1\ql \li0\ri0\keepn\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\outlinelevel0\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 \rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1\afs24\alang1025 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\fs24\lang2057\langfe2057\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp2057 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1\afs20 \ltrch\fcs0 \fs20\insrsid15492982 Presented by Mat Fraser and Liz Carr \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 \rtlch\fcs1 \af0\afs20\alang1025 \ltrch\fcs0 \fs20\lang2057\langfe2057\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp2057 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid5649561 \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 This month\rquote s guest is king of trivia, TV stunts and beards. A round of applause please, ladies and gentlemen, for Jeremy Beadle! \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 [Cheers, whooping and applause in studio] \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 King of beards? I \rquote ve got some sort of little stubbly growth that I shave into shape \endash and you call that a beard? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 [Laughs]}{ \rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Do you still have a beard, Jeremy? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 I still have a beard, yes. It covers my several chins. \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Oh, that\rquote s one of my favourite things about you \endash the beard. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Well, one of the things about playing practical jokes is wearing a beard to disguise myself, despite the fact that I wear a beard. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 I remember your comedy beard from }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 Beadle\rquote s About}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 as if it was yesterday. I loved it. OK, we\rquote re going to ask you some questions, Jeremy, because there are just so many things to talk about with you. You\rquote re just such a }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 broad }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 man \'85 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Fat is the word, but carry on. \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 On the Ouch Podcast, Jeremy, we tend to have disabled guests. When we told people that we\rquote d got you coming onto the show, quite a lot said, \'93Why?\'94 And I have to admit that I was one of those people. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Me too. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 So really I just wanted to start off by asking you to give a quick nod as to why. You\rquote ve got something called Poland Syndrome, and much as we hate dwelling on medical stuff here at Ouch, could you sum it up for us in a few words? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Yes, basically I have got a withered right hand, which actually is a genetic disease that affects, I don\rquote t know, one in every so often. Generally, Poland Syndrome affects the whole arm, so it can be anything to do with arm deficiency. The thing is, as I tell a lot of people who have this, when you try and hide it, people actually spot it. But if you\rquote re like me and you\rquote re a sort of talking windmill and you gesticulate a lot, people don\rquote t even see it quite a lot of the time. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 I have to corroborate with you there, because I actually know someone who is a member of the organisation that you\rquote re a patron of \endash and that\rquote s Reach \endash and she was the one who told me that one of your hands was different. Because I had watched you for years and not even realised. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 But if you watch again, knowing, you\rquote ll see that I do }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 not}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 hide it. It\rquote s not held in the pockets, it\rquote s not round the back, and it\rquote s one of the things I always try to tell the particular children. In fact, it\rquote s not the children that have actually }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 got}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Poland Syndrome that I always have to spend time with \endash it\rquote s their bloody parents! Because they do all the worrying, and they\rquote re the ones with anxiety, they\rquote re the ones with guilt, they\rquote re the ones who think \'93oh, what have I done? What can I do?\'94 The kids just get on with it. It\rquote s actually offering therapy and advice and comfort and reassurance to the parents. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 That\rquote s right. We find the same kind of thing in the Thalidomide society, Jeremy. You\rquote ve had a long history of working in TV and you\rquote ve created some TV formats as well. Now, one thing I\rquote d like to know \endash given what the ton e of this programme is \endash if you were to be given the opportunity to do a really relevant and cool disability TV show, what elements do you think it would have? What would you call it? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Well, the first thing I \rquote d do is that it wouldn\rquote t have any relevance whatsoever to do with disability. Far from it. It\rquote s all about personality. You watch personalities \endash you don\rquote t watch injuries, you don\rquote t want people making excuses or bleating. They don\rquote t want any people who want advantages. They want to be entertained \endash and entertainment is about finding good personalities. There is no shortage of good personalities in every aspect of life. There are some people who are shy, some who are noisy; there are rowdy, louts, heathen, pagans. Altogether, they are all different, and what you try and do is just try and cast. That\rquote s the single most important thing. When you say to me what sort of show would I make around disabilities \endash I wouldn\rquote t. What I\rquote d do is find some really good personalities and say, \'93Right, now what are we going to do?\'94 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 What about you, Jeremy? Have you got anything coming up in terms of TV in the next few months? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Well, funnily enough \'85 I spend an awful lot of time turning work down. I know that sounds like a real \lquote out\rquote , but it\rquote s absolutely true because I do get offered some absolute crap. And then they don\rquote t want to pay, or \'85 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Oh, I see. They want you to do it for free because you\rquote re disabled? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 [Laughs] }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 No! No one\rquote s ever come that line with me before. \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 That\rquote s just you that gets that, Mat. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 I do get some pretty evil and nasty phone calls, and I do get abuse in the press occasionally, which is rather unnecessary and tells me more about the person writing it than me. You learn to live with all that stuff. But in the last week, funnily enough, I had three offers of three programmes \endash and every single one of them I actually like. So I\rquote m in a }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 slight}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 quandary. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Hold on a minute! Is this news going to break on Ouch? Sorry, not just Noel Edmonds coming back to the fore, but Mr Jeremy Beadle too? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Well, you get offers, you chat to them and then they come to nothing. But these are actually a couple of very, very good ideas \endash and they\rquote re not even }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 my}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 ideas, which makes me spit. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Because I was going t o ask if you wouldn\rquote t mind presenting }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 I\rquote m a Monstrosity, Get Me Out of Here! }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Or }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 Game for a Laugh at Disabled People.}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 I\rquote ll tell you what \endash I have been asked to do }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 I\rquote m a Celebrity}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 and }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 Celebrity Big Brother}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 , and I\rquote ve said \'93no, thank you very much indeed\'94. They must think you\rquote re a fool. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Word of advice, Jeremy: stay away. Don\rquote t do it. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 I don\rquote t trust them. If you watch the credits, you\rquote ll see \lquote Story Editor\rquote \endash which should tell you all you need to know. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT: \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Yes, thank you very much. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 We\rquote re reading about that you\rquote d been diagnosed with kidney cancer, and you\rquote ve got leukemia \'85 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\s2\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\keepn\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\outlinelevel1\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 \rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1\afs20\alang1025 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\fs20\lang2057\langfe2057\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp2057 { \rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab0\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b0\insrsid15492982 Yes, I had my kidney out. That was fascinating. \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 \rtlch\fcs1 \af0\afs20\alang1025 \ltrch\fcs0 \fs20\lang2057\langfe2057\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp2057 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af0 \ltrch\fcs0 \insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Really? In what way? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 It\rquote s when they turn round to you and say \'85 well, I went in for something completely different, and they tried all the scans and all the bits and pieces, and then I eventually saw the specialist and he said, \'93Well, we don\rquote t know what\rquote s wrong with you \endash but do you see what that is?\'94 I said, \'93Yes, but I don\rquote t know what I\rquote m looking at.\'94 \'93Well,\'94 he said, \'93we call that a lump.\'94 \'93Do you mean cancer?\'94 He said: \'93Yes.\'94 And I was absolutely }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 fascinated}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 . I asked what the prognosis was. He said surgery. I asked, \'93Any alternative?\'94 and he said death. So I said, \'93Well, no, I don \rquote t fancy that too much.\'94 And then he said, \'93Well, I don\rquote t suggest for a moment that I\rquote d be the person to do the operation, even though I am the most experienced person in {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}} {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname country-region}}Britain{\*\xmlclose}{\*\xmlclose}\'94. Now, }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 that}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 bit confused me. But the thing was that he did it by traditional procedure, whereas he recommended keyhole for me. And to be quite frank, by the time it was all done \endash well, I went in on the Monday and I was out on the Thursday, minus a kidney. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 And how are you now? How \rquote s your health now? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Fine. It hasn\rquote t affected me in the slightest. The only thing is that once you\rquote ve had cancer they keep a very close eye on you, and so then they do blood tests on you. Now these are very vigorous blood tests, and they located the fact that I had leukemia, which is a rather grand term for a disease that has several degrees \endash and I\rquote m unfortunately right at the bottom. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Is that good or bad? I don \rquote t understand. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Well, I got all these thousands of emails and letters. It was deeply embarrassing to have people wishing me well on my way to heaven. And I had to explain that it wasn\rquote t quite like that. I\rquote ve got a type of leukemia which is basically non-life threatening, it\rquote s long-term, but as long as you\rquote re not cavalier with your health you\rquote re going to be all right. A lot of men go to their grave with it without ever knowing. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Wow. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ: \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Well, it\rquote s good to hear that you\rquote re doing OK and that you\rquote ve got projects coming up. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 It has not affected my life in one single way. It hasn\rquote t changed my life in the slightest. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 So it hasn\rquote t stopped your love of trivia, Jeremy? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Yes, I do like a bit of trivia! \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 I\rquote m dying to ask you this. What\rquote s your favourite piece of disability-related trivia? Can you share it with our Ouch listeners? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Disability? Oh, now you\rquote ve }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 really}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 put me on the spot there. \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Come on, then! Rise to the challenge! \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 This word \lquote disability\rquote \endash I don\rquote t recognise it. I }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 really}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 don\rquote t recognise it. I actually see triumph, I see advantages, I see people actually making a difference because of it. I don\rquote t like these labels. But I do have, in terms of trivia, a huge list of people that have overcome handicaps, and I do collect the medical biographies of the famous. There are some really, really fascinating examples, but I can\rquote t really go through them now that you\rquote ve put me on the spot! I did actually do a thing for Irving Wallace called }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 The Invisible Man}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 , which was about the famous parts of people that never existed \endash so obviously you can have Nelson\rquote s arm \'85 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Oh, OK, I get it \endash George Bush\rquote s brain. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY: \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 But I did the whole body, which was quite jolly. \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 And if you could be asked one final question, what would that final question be? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 [Laughs] \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 We don\rquote t have one, honestly. We\rquote re done. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Define your own question \endash make it a positive one. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY: \tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 I would say, \'93 Who, at the moment, is your champion? Who\rquote s the person who affects you? Who\rquote s the person you listen to? Who\rquote s the person who is wise and whose words make it for you? Really good reading, really good listening. Who do you actually }{ \rtlch\fcs1 \ai\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \i\f1\insrsid15492982 believe}{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 in?\'94 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 That\rquote s really good. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Who is it, then, Jeremy, for you, at the moment? \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Pat Mancini, Queen of {\*\xmlopen\xmlns2{\factoidname place}}Blackpool{\*\xmlclose}. \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Oh, now who\rquote s that? Tell us more. That\rquote s blown us away! \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Ah, now \'85 now you can find out. \par \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 MAT:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 OK, well, we will. Pat Mancini \endash look out, because we\rquote re going to Google you when we\rquote ve finished. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-1418\li1418\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin1418\itap0\pararsid5649561 {\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 LIZ:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 Thank you, Jeremy, for your time. \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\wrapdefault\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 \par }{\rtlch\fcs1 \ab\af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \b\f1\insrsid15492982 JEREMY:\tab }{\rtlch\fcs1 \af1 \ltrch\fcs0 \f1\insrsid15492982 It\rquote s a real pleasure, it\rquote s a real pleasure. Have fun, have fun. \par }}