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On All Things Considered this week there鈥檚 another chance to hear an interview first broadcast in Sept 2016 in which Roy Jenkins meets Nadia Bolz-Weber - an unconventional Lutheran pastor described by the Washington Post as a 鈥渇oul-mouthed champion to people sick of being belittled as not Christian enough for the right or too Jesus-y for the left鈥�.

Eight years ago, adorned with her impressive trademark tattoos, she started a distinctive new church in Denver, Colorado, which prides itself on being open to everyone, combining both very progressive and very traditional elements.

Controversial and loud, compassionate and funny - she worked for a time as a stand-up comedian 鈥� Nadia draws audiences around the world, and she鈥檚 been on tour in Britain recently. Roy talks to her about her life and her faith.