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New England football manager Gareth Southgate joins Garry Richardson in a special edition of the show, discussing elite sports coaching and what it takes to produce a successful national team. Other guests include Rugby Union World Cup winner Sir Clive Woodward and Judy Murray, who's helped guide her sons Andy and Jamie to becoming the world's best tennis players in singles and doubles. Further insight and analysis from Matthew Syed, journalist and author of the best-selling book Black Box Thinking.

Download the podcast: bbc.co.uk/podcasts/5live.