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TikTok had a fantastic pandemic, stacking up over 800 million users. Hollywood studios are casting TikTok stars. Record labels are snapping up TikTok singers. Facebook and YouTube have both launched rival services. But the Chinese app is facing the same issues with disinformation and moderation as the Silicon Valley giants - and has become embroiled in geopolitics. What's next for this upstart?

Guests: Richard Waterworth, TikTok's General Manager, UK and Europe; Rhiannon Williams, Tech Correspondent at The i Paper; Liza Lin, China Tech Reporter at the Wall Street Journal.

Studio engineer: Tim Heffer

Producer: Hannah Sander

Presenter: Datshiane Navanayagam