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As the war in Ukraine continues to escalate, what role does journalism play in peacemaking, in dialling down the rhetoric? The 麻豆官网首页入口鈥檚 John Simpson was in Kyiv to interview President Zelensky - we hear his take.

And with Katie in the studio is another giant of journalism. Emma Tucker is the editor of The Sunday Times. Only the second woman to have done that job in more than 100 years.