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The Chancellor has backed the expansion of Heathrow and picked a fight with bats in her pursuit of economic growth. Nick is joined by fellow Today presenter Justin Webb to talk about his interview with Rachel Reeves on Thursday morning’s Today programme.

They discuss her new approach, whether Keir Starmer's government is taking a leaf out of Donald Trump’s book and why political interviews are much better face-to-face.

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The Today Podcast is hosted by Amol Rajan and Nick Robinson who are both presenters of Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Radio 4’s Today programme. Amol was the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú’s media editor for six years and is the former editor of the Independent, he’s also the current presenter of University Challenge. Nick has presented the Today programme since 2015, he was the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú’s political editor for ten years before that and also previously worked as ITV’s political editor.

This episode was made by Lewis Vickers with Nadia Gyane and Grace Reeve. Digital production was by Nadia Gyane and Grace Reeve. The technical producer was Hannah Montgomery. The editor is Louisa Lewis. The executive producer is Owenna Griffiths.