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Labour MP's Cat Smith and Stephen Kinnock discuss the Labour welfare bill revolt with Jo Coburn..

Cat Smith says it was "a very difficult decision" but her constituents were giving her the message that she must oppose the government. She says she tried to raise her objection with her party behind the scenes, but "I felt I wasn't listened to".

Fellow Labour MP Stephen Kinnock says he has "a huge amount of respect" for his colleague even though he didn't vote the same way. He says the Conservatives are laying "traps" for the party and it "needs to take a forensic approach to this bill rather than blanket opposition".

But he adds that it's wrong "to portray this as a civil war" when it is merely "robust debate".