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Try – yes or no?

Ugo and Chris go to Heathrow Terminal 4 to meet international referee Wayne Barnes and his TMO sidekick Rowan Kitt to lift the lid on the art of the television match official.

Ugo Monye and Chris Jones go to Heathrow Terminal 4 to meet international referee Wayne Barnes and his TMO sidekick Rowan Kitt to lift the lid on the art of the television match official.

We discuss the influence of TV directors, the ‘wild west’ clearouts at the ruck and ask should there be more interventions from the TMO?

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