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As Warren Gatland names his 33-man World Cup squad, Ashy and Chris head to Wales to speak to the coach and his captains. They find out why Gatland decided to name two leaders, what his expectations are for the tournament and what changes he would make to the way the game is refereed. They also catch up with Jac Morgan and Dewi Lake who explain how their contrasting styles of leadership will work on and off the field. And as the fall-out from England鈥檚 red cards continues, we ask how worrying things are getting for Steve Borthwick鈥檚 side.