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106. The Pyjama Killer

Murder in lockdown. Penny Jackson is the so-called M&S pyjama killer. Police video footage of her arrest went viral. "Oh good," she said when told her husband was dead.

Bad People is back!

Criminal psychologist, Dr Julia Shaw, is joined by a new co-host: journalist and documentary maker Amber Haque.

The new season starts with a true crime story that went viral during lockdown.

Penny Jackson looked as if she was living the middle class retirement dream. Holidays and a retirement home by the sea.

But cooped up with her husband during lockdown, her anger got out of control. After a petty row about food she stabbed her husband to death. When police arrested for murder, she said, "Oh good." Video footage of her being taken into custody in her M&S pyjamas went viral.

Amber looks into the couple's lives for clues about what led to their fatal row. Julia and Amber discuss coercive control, toxic relationships and complex grief.

Presenters: Dr Julia Shaw and Amber Haque
Producers: Ciaran Tracey and James Shield
Executive Producer: Innes Bowen
Unit Manager: Lucy Bannister
Production Coordinator: Juliette Harvey
Researcher: Rhiannon Cobb
Mix Engineer: John Scott
Recording Studio: 88Hertz
Commissioning Editor: Dylan Haskins
Assistant Commissioners: Adam Eland, Sarah Green and Izzy Lee-Poulton

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52 minutes

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