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Comedian Stewart Lee tells Nihal Arthanayake about the challenges facing people trying to get into the arts industry.

He says Keir Starmer needs to create an 鈥渆conomic situation where people can afford to live and have interests鈥�.

鈥淵ou can鈥檛 have people forming bands or trying to be a certain kind of stand-up, if everyday you鈥檙e worried about how they鈥檙e going to pay the rent.鈥�

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