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No-win situation

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Rob is rather disappointed that he doesn't gain any money after winning ten pounds from the bet because he owes Li a drink. However, Li kindly offers him a free meal at the end. He then learns some expressions that describe both situations.

horse racing, pa

Rob is in a no-win situation after winning the bet.

The script for this programme

Rob: Hello and welcome to The English We Speak. I'm Rob.

Li: And hello I'm Li.

Rob: Shh shh Li – quiet please! I need to concentrate, the race is about to finish and I've got a bet on.

Rob: Yeah! I've won. I've actually won. I'm rich!

Li: Well done Rob. So what have you won Rob?

Rob: Ten pounds!

Li: Oh just ten pounds. Ah well, that's quite useful actually.

Rob: Is it. Why is that?

Li: Well, you owe me five pounds and you did say you would buy me a glass of champagne if you won a race.

Rob: Oh right, did I? So, that will leave me with…. fifty pence. Maybe I'm not a winner after all. Honestly! Every time I make some money I have to give it away.

Li: Sorry Rob, it's a no-win situation or a lose-lose situation. Rob, you can't gain any money because you'll always lose it on something else.

Rob: So even though I did win something, I have also lost. That's a no-win situation is it?

Li: I'm afraid it is. A no-win situation is one in which a favourable outcome is impossible. You are bound to lose whatever you do. You can also use this phrase to describe situations that aren't just to do with money, like this:

  • I can get the bus or train to work – either way I'm going to be late. It's a no-win situation.
  • The cafe only served ham or beef sandwiches but as a vegetarian I was in a no-win situation.
  • If she helps in the garden, Mum won't be pleased and if she helps in the kitchen, Dad won't be pleased. She really is in a no-win situation.

Li: So a no-win situation is one that is certain to end in failure and disappointment. So Rob I can see you are disappointed because you have spent your winnings on me.

Rob: I am. It seems impossible to win money just for myself.

Li: Actually I also won some money – fifty pounds – so I'll buy you a drink, in fact I'll buy you something to eat too and you don't need to pay me back that five pounds.

Rob: Really? Oh Li that's very kind of you. Now I'm in a win-win situation!

Li: Yes, the opposite of a no-win situation is a win-win situation. This is where there is a favourable outcome for everyone involved. Like this:

  • The house buyer got a good price and the seller was happy to sell quickly so it was a win-win situation.
  • If I get to invest your money in the company and you get to share the profits, it's a win-win situation.

Rob: So, in a win-win situation everyone is happy! Just like our situation now. So, where are you taking me for dinner Li?

Li: Did I say dinner? I was just going to buy you a sandwich.

Rob: Oh. That's not such a good win-win situation, is it?

Li: Maybe I'll buy you some chips too!

Rob: OK great. Let's go. Bye.

Li: Bye bye.

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