The Open day in full
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| 11:08 UK time, Tuesday, 18 August 2009
Last Friday Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Online held its first Open meeting and I'm very pleased to say we've got a video record of the day in full to share with you. Seetha Kumar, Controller, Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Online; Nic Newman, Controller, Journalism, Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú FM&T; Chris Kimber, Managing Editor, Audio & Music Interactive and Simon Nelson, Controller, Portfolio and Multi-Platform, Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Vision presented many of their plans for online over the next six months to an audience made up of Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Onlines's industry partners, suppliers and regulators. The panel also answered questions at the end of the session. The intention is to hold these sessions every six months and to share them on the Internet Blog.
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Seetha Kumar, Controller, Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Online introduces the Open Day.
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Nic Newman, Controller, Journalism, Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú FM&T on their future priorities.
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Chris Kimber, Managing Editor, Audio & Music Interactive on the challenges presented by new technology and changing audience behaviour.
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Simon Nelson, Controller, Portfolio and Multi-Platform shows the new social media products being developed in Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Vision.
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Open Day: Q&A session with Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Online's suppliers, partners and regulators.
Comment number 1.
At 18th Aug 2009, hdblogger wrote:The audio on the last video is terrible. Sounds like Norman Collier on a bad day. Not sure if it's my connection or your clip but I wanted to listen to the Q&A but I couldn't understand a word of it, sorry.
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Comment number 2.
At 18th Aug 2009, hdblogger wrote:Sorry, my fault, it's working fine now.
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Comment number 3.
At 19th Aug 2009, Wyrdtimes wrote:Looks cosy!
where there any independent license fee payers present?
Are these meetings going to be held around the country? Can anyone come along?
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Comment number 4.
At 19th Aug 2009, krishnamurthi ramachandran wrote:Dear,Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Team,
You have done a wonderful jobs.
This open session with all like minded persons are very good
On philosophical point of view, man will not get satisfaction on any new things
Now, i want to see your lively interaction with others
But,you are mentioning that,these videos can not be seen.It is not working.Please try later.
What is this?
Please correct all your new applications at the earliest.
I like all your added values to users.
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Comment number 5.
At 19th Aug 2009, TV Licence fee payer against Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú censorship wrote:#3. At 09:44am on 19 Aug 2009, englandrise wrote:
"where there any independent license fee payers present?"
As was discussed Here this wasn't an Open, open meeting but a closed open meeting, that is open to only the invited (mostly the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú's partners and suppliers it would seem). Sorry but the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is being less than open about how open these meetings really are!...
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Comment number 6.
At 19th Aug 2009, TV Licence fee payer against Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú censorship wrote:Having now had time to watch (or more truthfully listen, see last comment...) to the videos a few comments:
Please Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú, "Buzz" words are oh so late 1990s - early 'Noughties', enough of them to sink a ship in the first video, many of them repeated ad nausea - Sorry! Such meerkating speek might work within a the trade luv-ins but in the wider world it doesn't any more, in fact it's more likely to just generate lots of cynicism rather than anything else...
Seetha Kumar talked about the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú 'home page', what page is that, just how many still think that the way into a website is only via the domain name (in this case www.bbc.co.uk), just how many use that page and then click-through to their intended section rather than having just book-marked, clicked-though or typed in the direct URL?
Nic Newman talked about syndicated (video) content, when the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú talks about greater syndication to external sites does this include (suitable) private/non-commercial sites or just greater syndication within the established/Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú partner media industry?
Simon Nelson talked about many things, one being programmes having support via online content, why is the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú starting this off with such well known programmes - Should the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú not be fulfilling it's PSB remit (never mind the Rethian values within it's Royal Charter) first and foremost, by offering and promoting content that is not being offered by the commercial sector rather than competing for the same audience...
Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Comedy, sorry but if the extracts shown are 'comedy' then the comedy greats (like Morecambe and Wise, Sykes and even Benny Hill were Shakespearian actors... There is an audience beyond the 25 year old you know!
Radio visualisations - what's the point?... Money would be better spent elsewhere, in other ways or at least make them available as a user opt-in only, I can think of nothing more crass than forcing visualisations onto an audience who will have built up their own mental image (visualisation) of the radio programme - especially plays, dramas and soaps.
One last comment regarding the video, I hope that the production 'qualities' were intentional...
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Comment number 7.
At 20th Aug 2009, lordBeddGelert wrote:This film is completely unwatchable because some idiot in the presentation failed to turn their mobile off, so all I can hear is the sound of polling mobile phone interference.
Rubbish !!!
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Comment number 8.
At 20th Aug 2009, TV Licence fee payer against Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú censorship wrote:Any chance of a follow up comment Paul (or anyone from the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú online team)?...
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Comment number 9.
At 21st Aug 2009, Chris Kimber wrote:In response to Boilerplated's comments about radio visualisations.
Slightly strange that you should pick up on this subject, as in the presentation I gave I only very briefly mentioned visualisation once. 99% of what I presented was about other areas of our strategy, as you can see if you watch the video.
Having said that, all our research shows that the latest visualisation trials (/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/07/radio_and_telly_thatd_be_telio.html%29 have been extremely popular with our audiences. Worth noting too that they are all opt-in only. We don't force visualisations on anyone!
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Comment number 10.
At 22nd Aug 2009, logomats wrote:I hope the video does not represent the quality of the bbc. I would expect a bit better quality from the bbc.
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Comment number 11.
At 22nd Aug 2009, TV Licence fee payer against Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú censorship wrote:#9
"Slightly strange that you should pick up on this subject, as in the presentation I gave I only very briefly mentioned visualisation once."
Why is that strange, would you prefer that I went out of my way to find fault/concern for everything you spoke about?! :-0
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Comment number 12.
At 23rd Aug 2009, regalWanda wrote:From a standard users point of view the open session was very good. There is an audience beyond the 25 year old and most will welcome the additional information add-ons, We help part time to run the members are fully paid up members of this digital generation and will use the information, services and possible purchase from sources which by affiliation will be taken as trusted. If that helps the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú's coffers so much the better.
One problem we have found is feedback after after applying to be included in the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú search engines external links database. Many of our members use the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú search and ask why we are not included, we have no answer as one is never informed.
Back to the comments great stings coming, please keep the add-ons simple user friendly functions.
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Comment number 15.
At 25th Aug 2009, Amigo wrote:Did anyone mention the more than 2000 complaints to Steve Herrmann regarding the inability of many thousands of people (both in the UK and elsewhere) to actually access the existing Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú news web-site correctly?
/blogs/theeditors/2009/07/changes_to_international_pages_2.html
I can't see the video at all? What have you got to hide?
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Comment number 17.
At 25th Aug 2009, dbulbeck wrote:In support of Ladderedge's comments, the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú took an ill-informed decision to use GeoIP addresses to censor the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú's pages from international eyes. This means that those who are "unfortunate enough" (in the blinkered eyes of the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú) to connect via an IP address which is not in the UK cannot see the above video, even if they are living, working and paying fees & taxes in the UK.
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Comment number 18.
At 25th Aug 2009, 189queenstreet wrote:Blog is informative and thankfully advert free!!
Must say I am tired of hearing Bono and Blackberry every time I want to view a news clip on the website.
Once should be punishment enough - have mercy!
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Comment number 21.
At 28th Aug 2009, Amigo wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 22.
At 29th Aug 2009, Prof John Locke wrote:not sure if this is the place to post but i guess it is Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú online...i refer to the various blogs...peston and stephanomics appear to be on extended holiday...nick robinson at least had a replacement, and very good she was too. Why are these blogs pre moderated? pre moderation is slow and loses the spontaneity of debate Why are some cut off early? (the last one of robinson's replacement Laura was cut before it reached forty and was so heavily moderated it was ridiculous. Any criticism of the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú is moderated (censored) just what has the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú got to fear from free speech?
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Comment number 23.
At 29th Aug 2009, Amigo wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.
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Comment number 24.
At 29th Aug 2009, paul_geaton wrote:Re: #15 and #17. If you're temporarily outside the UK is there another alternative way of accessing your video?
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Comment number 25.
At 30th Aug 2009, Amigo wrote:It's not only the video that would be nice to see, but the text pages that we once could read.
Even some of us inside the UK are unable to read all the text pages.
Message to the "open Day" attendees:-
Let's get back to first principles.
Don't complicate matters, just let us read the pages, in the way we once could.
There are many thousands out 'here' that are censored by the new technology.
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Comment number 29.
At 2nd Sep 2009, AlisonC wrote:I always enjoyed the America and China blogs. Will someone be taking these over soon?
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Comment number 30.
At 25th Sep 2009, Amigo wrote:Nobody cares anymore.
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Comment number 31.
At 30th Sep 2009, geoffonhols wrote:Re Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú News Site
I think the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú News Site is poor-Very slow with breaking news
Most other news sites have stuff up well before the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú.
The local pages are worse - -six or seven items - some left there for days on end.
Obviously there is a lack of effort - will - license payers money being put into it.
So where would you go for News ?-- prob not the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú.
By the time they eventually , slowly get it 'updated' -we will all be with Sky News- Bold,brash, punchy and UP TO DATE.
* Accessing it from the USA - the site has adverts/pop ups/and pre adverts on any video clips available.
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Comment number 32.
At 1st Oct 2009, TV Licence fee payer against Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú censorship wrote:In replt to comments made @ #31
...and your comment (or was it just an anti Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú rant) has what, exactly, to do with the subject under discussion?
Anyway, it's no good being first, "Bold,brash, punchy and UP TO DATE", with the news if what is broadcast is simply wrong, better to be second - or even third or fourth - and accurate than first, then have to make a public retraction! I'm not saying that the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú doesn't make mistakes but they pail into insignificance (in my opinion) when compared to certain other media companies.
Oh, and why shouldn't people outside the UK, many who do not pay the UK TVL fee, not 'pay' for the content they access by advertising, indeed people who subscribe to the Murdock media not only pay their subscriptions but then have to watch adverts too...
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Comment number 34.
At 12th May 2010, U14460911 wrote:All this user's posts have been removed.Why?
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