Remembering Sally Clark
Posted: Monday, 19 March 2007 |
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That poor lady. I wonder how Roy Meadows can sleep at night with her (and other ruined lives) on his conscience. I am a complete lay person but even I thought his figures were a bit iffy at the time.
Jill from EK
I agee with you, they needed a scapegoat and chose her, poor woman. And all because the powers at be, don't know the true reasons for cot death! Heart felt sadness surrounds this family and goes out to them.
Ac from Coll
I followed this story carefully too ... Poor woman - after all of that, was there ever any real doubt that this would be the eventual outcome ...? But just think about the logic of these sorts of situations for a moment ... How do we *ever* know the reasons for anything ...? Because we trust an expert to know them ... Rightness and wrongness, highest probabilities, likely causes, reconstructions of events which were not seen, complex miniscule forensic analyses, all are the province of The Expert ... We do not like unknown things ... Man is too proud to admit "I really don't know" ... Courts cannot function on "maybe, but maybe not ..." So we employ the services of The Expert ... But half the time, The Expert reveals only todays paradigm, which may be totally shifted or overturned in the fullness of time ... Regardless of the harm he has done, I find it hard to believe that Roy Meadows *knew* he was wrong, while he was giving evidence ... But aside from turning every trial into a scientific conference which has the power to overturn accepted knowledge, there and then, there was little which people with other views could do to challenge him ... There is a very wide and serious question here ... and a likelihood that it will never be answered ...
soaplady from devils advocacy ...
It's inconceivable that RM knew he was wrong at the time, but after everything that has happened it would be more than his life is worth to admit even the slightest doubt - financially and legally he would be ruined - and maybe for his own peace of mind also he can't admit it even to himself. Poor Sally Clark. Her face after her release from prison said it all.
Jill from EK
Jill unfortunately I don鈥檛 think Roy Meadows has a conscience, last year I heard on radio Sally鈥檚 father say he (meadows) showed no remorse,
island threads from lewis
Ac, good doctors admit they don鈥檛 know and I have heard good doctors say this, one said that 3 month colic is not colic but when the medical profession does not know why babies up to 3 months can cry without (it seems) a reason, my theory is they are having day/nightmares reliving their birth, thanks goodness we forget!!!!!
island threads from lewis
This morning (Wed) woman鈥檚 hour starts with a discussion about Sally, Angela Cannings (who is in the studio) and other innocent victims of the law and that there is no real help for them afterwards, makes interesting listening and as it is the first item you do not have to listen to the whole programme, available on the listen again but give the beeb time to get it up there, http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/womanshour/02/2007_12_wed.shtml
island threads from lewis
Meadows diagnosed mothers with an illness HE INVENTED, if you invent an illness you have to prove it by diagnosing mothers with the invented illness, http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/Professor_Sir_Roy_Meadows.htm there was/is opposition to Meadows invented illness but Meadows seems to have done a *Kings new clothes* getting the legal system to believe him above all others,
island threads from lewis
here's a quote from a mother diagnosed with the invent illness, it is a catch 22, *The woman, who is 50, cannot be named for legal reasons. She added: "What gets me is it was enough for them just to suspect me of Munchausen's to take my daughter away. If I protest or dispute the evidence they say I'm lying and that proves I've got Munchausen's because lying is one of the symptoms. That's how it works." * you can find the quote here, http://www.vaccinetruth.org/shakenbaby/roy_meadows.htm
island threads from lewis
so her conviction was unsafe, agreed, was she innocent? I don't know. The unfortunate thing people forget is that there are parents who abuse and kill their children.
coidr from uk
Sally Clark was not convicted of murder because of the imputed malpractise of a distinguished doctor but because it appeared highly likely to the jury and numerous other medical witnesses that two children dying suddenly whilst awake and well, both with evidence of suffocation at post mortem, and one with multiple and extensive injuries including fractured and dislocated ribs and bleeding into the skin, brain and spine fitted best with the idea that they may have been murdered. They were not,by definition, 'cot deaths' and the figures quoted for the risk of two such deaths were irrelevent to the case and had nothing to do with the conviction nor the release of Sally Clark. It was the finding of missing path reports that were vital because clever barristers who are interested in winning cases not the truth were able to suggest that there may have been a possibility that Harry had died of a fulminating Staphyloccocal septicaemia with no clinical or tissue evidence of such an infection, a diagnosis that only the medically dangerous could make but enough to satisfy the untutored clinicians on the Bench. Meadow is a highly competent doctor who has saved many lives both in his practise and in the warnings he gave to paediatricians world wide that mothers harm and kill their children. We abuse our children, abort them when it doesn't suit,crush their heads at the moment of birth and pretend in self regarding fantasy that mothers don't kill.
dave from UK
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