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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on Friday, 13th February 2015
I wondered when this was going to turn up. Towards the end of this month, beginning of next, according to the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú.
I sometimes have a little trouble with some aspects of Jimmy McGovern's writing, but the subject-matter of this is intriguing, and not something I recall having dealt with much by TV drama. I'll be interested to see what it's like. -
Message 2
Posted by goodhelenstar (U13943062) on Friday, 13th February 2015
I'll certainly give it a go. It's a good cast including David Wenham (from Top of the Lake) who is the governor, so one of the bad guys presumably. MyAnna Buring was very good in Ripper Street, and Russell Tovey and Julian Rhind-Tutt are both good value.
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Message 3
Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on Friday, 13th February 2015
What role did David Wenham play in Top of The Lake, goodhelenstar? I can't remember now ...
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Message 4
Posted by goodhelenstar (U13943062) on Friday, 13th February 2015
He was Robin's boss Al, the head of the local police - can't remember his rank but he was senior to her.
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Message 5
Posted by Rosemary (U7231409) on Friday, 13th February 2015
He was Robin's boss Al, the head of the local police - can't remember his rank but he was senior to her.Ìý Ah yes, thanks. I remember that character. Thank you!
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Message 6
Posted by Geometry_Man (U12739007) on Friday, 20th February 2015
I'm looking forward to this. A lot of familiar names in the cast.
Episode 1 is now confirmed for Thursday 5 March, 9.00pm-10.00pm, Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú TWO. -
Message 7
Posted by hollybeau (U13700692) on Friday, 20th February 2015
Excellent, something else to look forward to.
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Message 8
Posted by nick maroney (U14917587) on Sunday, 22nd February 2015
I don't mind "issue " lead Drama as long as it doesn't turn into a long rant , I don't want to be bashed over the head and told what to think as his last Drama Common did and it put me off watching it . ( I read an interview in the Radio Times with him and and was pretty much a very long rant ) . I like Myanna Buring and as I am currently seeing( and enjoying )a lot more of Russell Tovey thanks to his role in looking , I could pretty much watch him read from a Dictionary. I will give Banished a whirl .
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Message 9
Posted by nick maroney (U14917587) on Tuesday, 24th February 2015
This starts on Thursday 05th of March [ March already !!!!!! ] at 9 pm on Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú 2 . According to the Radio Times it is not Gritty like other Jimmy Mcgoverns Dramas , it is more of a love Triangle between Russell , Myanna and Julian . I have seen a Trailer of this 7 part Drama and looks quite good.
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Message 10
Posted by Annie-Lou est Charlie (U4502268) on Wednesday, 25th February 2015
The blurb on the web page says it's based on "stark historical reality"....hmmmmm....well I guess we'll see. I'm not saying it won't be but I'm not holding my breath.
I'm afraid I'm very much NOT a fan of Jimmy McGoven, I find him very self regarding and he has a tendency to shove lessons down the audience's throat.
I only hope it is fair to Arthur Phillip, a remarkable man without whom the whole first and second fleets would probably have died. -
Message 11
Posted by pandaeyes (U15971470) on Wednesday, 25th February 2015
I read the article featured in next week's "Radio Times", looks interesting, think I'll give it a go.
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Message 12
Posted by Guv-nor (U7476305) on Wednesday, 4th March 2015
Cast & Characters
Note here
As relevant as what McGovern has chosen to include in his story is what he has opted to omit. The First Fleeters did have well-documented encounters with the aboriginal people, but none will appear in this series of Banished.
"The British haven't met the aboriginal people in my drama. It is difficult to exaggerate how important is it to get the portrayal of indigenous Australians right.
The time-frame in Banished is very short - something just over two weeks - and there is not sufficient time to develop and do justice to indigenous characters. Hopefully if there's another series there would be time to collaborate and get any representation right." -
Message 13
Posted by Mobson (U14628682) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
Great piece of advertising for the Australian Tourist Board or a bolster for Feminist's Rights?...
Standing on a sandy beach overlooking the ocean waves crashing onto the shore....dialogue between Governor Phillip and his deputy Major Ross... Gov: "London will be sending more women in the meantime should we not share those we have"...Ross: Sir? Gov: "is it right for your soldiers to keep the women to themselves?...Ross: It is right Sir Yes..my men are all volunteers ...in a God forsaken corner of a God forsaken country across a God forsaken ocean - they barely eat, they barely drink, take away their women Sir and they will rebel! Major Ross departs whilst saluting! -
Message 14
Posted by Guv-nor (U7476305) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
Setting sail now.
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Message 15
Posted by FowPah (U1746998) ** on Thursday, 5th March 2015
Ooh strong stuff.
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Message 16
Posted by The Man Who Watched Telly (U15436784) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
Good so far, better than the usual 'oh Mr darcy' nonsense.
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Message 17
Posted by zelda (U2012536) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
Disgraceful programme. Glorifying criminal activity and giving people a free cruise to the other side of the world. It will only encourage bad behaviour.
It's a bit dark innit? -
Message 18
Posted by minnie3 (U7451737) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I've turned over, I can't bear it anymore.
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Message 19
Posted by zelda (U2012536) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I've turned over, I can't bear it anymore.Ìý
Why? Life was hard and difficult way back then. -
Message 20
Posted by cakewalk (U11941928) ** on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I've been gripped by this from the start, what, 50 minutes ago.
Yes it's dark, and I'm sure Jimmy McGovern is using a bit of poetic licence but I have no doubt that for transportees at the time, life was very difficult. -
Message 21
Posted by minnie3 (U7451737) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I know I love history but it is too depressing and too visual. After last week's Wolf Hall
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Message 22
Posted by SATM67 (U14061947) ** on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I've turned over, I can't bear it anymore.Ìý
Why? Life was hard and difficult way back then.Ìý True, but were women convicts flogged? -
Message 23
Posted by strictlyaddicted2dancing (U14110008) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I've turned over, I can't bear it anymore.Ìý
Why? Life was hard and difficult way back then.Ìý True, but were women convicts flogged?Ìý according to Jimmy Mcgovern .. the floggings are fiction. -
Message 24
Posted by TalkingHead (U16175014) ** on Thursday, 5th March 2015
Just brilliant, more please.
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Message 25
Posted by beatxt (U14042175) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
First thoughts...
Half the convicts sound like they've just come out of EastEnders. I'm surprised I haven't heard "You slaaag" yet.
They could have made this in a studio - like Tenko (or It Aint 'alf Hot Mum) - and saved £millions.
Prompts me to wonder why they never got round to making Carry on Convict. -
Message 26
Posted by The Man Who Watched Telly (U15436784) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
Brilliant edge of the seat stuff, best thing since peaky blinders. Suggest those of a sensitive nature watch Poldark which is made for the girls.
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Message 27
Posted by susiesar (U10941938) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I think they were, convicts were treated appallingly women as well as men they were lucky if they didn't die on the ship.
Jimmy McGovern doesn't hold back on the realism. -
Message 28
Posted by Gill P (U15961217) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
Brilliant edge of the seat stuff, best thing since peaky blinders. Suggest those of a sensitive nature watch Poldark which is made for the girls.Ìý I watched it - and I am a girl (plus a few more years). Poldark is not just for girls.
MyAnna Buring was Long Susan in Ripper Street and Captain Collins was also in that programme, playing the reporter with a false ear! -
Message 29
Posted by alan997 (U1233723) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
Hate to say it, especially given its Jimmy McGovern credentials, but I was disappointed. There were some good one-liners, and the acting was fine, but there was just too much that didn't ring true, for me at least.
People wandering around and having meaningful conversations in the middle of the night, eg, when surely convicts would simply not have had such freedoms - especially ones scheduled to hang. And the woman's miraculous recovery from her vicious beating. And the Minister's sudden conversion - what of his earlier conviction? Entirely overcome by the word 'crucifixion'? Really? Not to mention the central dilemma, not in the least addressed by the supposed 'resolution'. Are we to understand that convicts are now free to marry, so long as they are single, thereby presumably denying the wives to the troops? Where does that leave the 'my soldiers will rebel' problem?
No, episode 1s are always tricky, and it wasn't bad enough to dissuade me from sticking with it for the moment. But based on what I've seen so far, the best I can muster is a 'Hmmmmm...' -
Message 30
Posted by strictlyaddicted2dancing (U14110008) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I think they were, convicts were treated appallingly women as well as men they were lucky if they didn't die on the ship.
Jimmy McGovern doesn't hold back on the realism.Ìý see msg 23 ... Jimmy Mcgovern has said he added quite a lot of fiction to this, for dramatic purposes, but of course the conditions were harsh ... probably much worse than depicted on the beatifiul coastline of Curl Curl. -
Message 31
Posted by GaryB007 (U3895241) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
They all had immaculate teeth. Not very realistic for convicts.
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Message 32
Posted by strictlyaddicted2dancing (U14110008) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
They all had immaculate teeth. Not very realistic for convicts.Ìý ... and didn't look malnourished either.
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Message 33
Posted by deansay (U5811575) ** on Thursday, 5th March 2015
They interviewed Myanna Buring, on Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú Breakfast this week and she said that the outside scenes are all Australia, but the inside scenes were shot in Manchester, so continuity was very important, because the preceding and successive scenes were shot months apart, so they had videos to show what went before or after.
So I had to watch this this just to see how the editing/continuity fitted and personally I couldn't see any 'joins' at all!! -
Message 34
Posted by counterblast (U14258320) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I feel like I've been bashed over the head by a rusty tin of Fosters.
Stuck with it, though. The woman from Ripper Street obviously specialises in 'tarts with a heart'. Russell Tovey was good - despite his near perfect gnashers and generally well-rounded appearance.
I was hoping the spider would kill the horrible Scotsman. -
Message 35
Posted by deansay (U5811575) ** on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I was hoping the spider would kill the horrible Scotsman.Ìý
I was thinking that he might have had a bit of a nasty shock from the spider when he went to relieve himself
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Message 36
Posted by Gill P (U15961217) on Thursday, 5th March 2015
I think he will eventually get his come-uppance, hopefully from the spider.
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Message 37
Posted by Dee (U3082905) on Friday, 6th March 2015
I think female convicts were flogged. I wonder if the Elizabeth Quinn character was partially based on this woman who was flogged (25 lashes) for being where she shouldn't & eventually ended up marrying a soldier after living with another man (not sure if he was a convict).
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Message 38
Posted by Geometry_Man (U12739007) on Friday, 6th March 2015
On the whole I enjoyed it. However, there were quite a few elements which required suspension of disbelief - and the lever on the gallows platform had me thinking of Graham Norton's red chair I'm afraid!
Worth sticking with, though. -
Message 39
Posted by Primrose (U16092747) on Friday, 6th March 2015
They all had immaculate teeth. Not very realistic for convicts.Ìý The Parson had terrible teeth!
Having read the not exactly glowing reports about this, I had expected to think that it was rubbish, but actually, I enjoyed it. However the loud music got in the way sometimes, so I have no idea what the Parson's wife shouted at him just as he was about to hang the convict.
Could someone please tell me. -
Message 40
Posted by alan997 (U1233723) on Friday, 6th March 2015
<quote postid='121547482'><quote postid='121544344'> I have no idea what the Parson's wife shouted at him just as he was about to hang the convict.
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"This is a crucifixion!" -
Message 41
Posted by Primrose (U16092747) on Friday, 6th March 2015
I have no idea what the Parson's wife shouted at him just as he was about to hang the convict.
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"This is a crucifixion!"Ìý
Thank you!
Now I understand why he stopped. -
Message 42
Posted by Alsdouble (U524298) on Friday, 6th March 2015
It was worse than rubbish, it was like someone had commissioned a group amateurs who had never seen a good tv drama and had no idea how to go about it. (Yes, the young and inexperienced.) Possibly there will never be any good tv made, ever again.
I would say everyone got paid, so yippee for them eh. -
Message 43
Posted by markmyword49 (U1158309) on Friday, 6th March 2015
I feel like I've been bashed over the head by a rusty tin of Fosters.
Stuck with it, though. The woman from Ripper Street obviously specialises in 'tarts with a heart'. Russell Tovey was good - despite his near perfect gnashers and generally well-rounded appearance.
I was hoping the spider would kill the horrible Scotsman.Ìý I thought Tovey was the weakest link in the acting stakes. Neither his appearance nor his acting made for a convincing character. He didn't look or sound like he was a character who would be picked on and bullied.
There's been talk of continuity but to me the outside scenes looked tacked on with the inside scenes looking and sounding more like a stage play. I understand the writer is more interested in ideas than movement but it did look stilted at times.
The programme overall was worth watching but it wouldn't be on my "must not miss" list. -
Message 44
Posted by markmyword49 (U1158309) on Friday, 6th March 2015
They all had immaculate teeth. Not very realistic for convicts.Ìý The Parson had terrible teeth!
Having read the not exactly glowing reports about this, I had expected to think that it was rubbish, but actually, I enjoyed it. However the loud music got in the way sometimes, so I have no idea what the Parson's wife shouted at him just as he was about to hang the convict.
Could someone please tell me.Ìý Crucifixion If I remember rightly. -
Message 45
Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) on Friday, 6th March 2015
Seems like a mixed reception...
I'd considered checking it out but, honestly, McGovern's writing credit puts me off - if he's written a script that hasn't overtly shouted "smash the fascist middle class", I've not heard of it. -
Message 46
Posted by DelusionsOfAdequacy (U15449583) ** on Friday, 6th March 2015
This would be it.
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Message 47
Posted by susiesar (U10941938) on Friday, 6th March 2015
Seems like a mixed reception...
I'd considered checking it out but, honestly, McGovern's writing credit puts me off - if he's written a script that hasn't overtly shouted "smash the fascist middle class", I've not heard of it.Ìý I don't think there was a "fascist middle class" to smash in 18th century Australia
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Message 48
Posted by goodhelenstar (U13943062) on Friday, 6th March 2015
On the whole I enjoyed it. However, there were quite a few elements which required suspension of disbelief - and the lever on the gallows platform had me thinking of Graham Norton's red chair I'm afraid!
Worth sticking with, though.Ìý Hmm. I haven't watched it yet - a slave to The Good Wife, despite the ads. I was a bit put off by reading that the writer invented the soldiers having 'first rights' to women, and also that there is no aboriginal presence at all. I've never understood the point of writing historical drama and making half of it up. Life was harsh enough there - even surviving the voyage was remarkable - without inventing aspects of life to satisfy the demands of time available.
I've recorded it though so will watch; having abandoned The Casual Vacancy and Mr Selfridge without a backward glance, my PVR hard drive is looking a little sparse. -
Message 49
Posted by Prophet Tenebrae (U5995226) on Friday, 6th March 2015
Seems like a mixed reception...
I'd considered checking it out but, honestly, McGovern's writing credit puts me off - if he's written a script that hasn't overtly shouted "smash the fascist middle class", I've not heard of it.Ìý I don't think there was a "fascist middle class" to smash in 18th century AustraliaÌý
That's unlikely to prove an obstacle to Mr. McGovern. -
Message 50
Posted by DelusionsOfAdequacy (U15449583) ** on Friday, 6th March 2015
That's unlikely to prove an obstacle to Mr. McGovern.Ìý
No sign of it so far - Governor written sympathetically, Chaplain and his wife ditto, and the bad lots were a convict bully and a private soldier.
Perhaps you should watch it before deciding what the writer is guilty of.
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