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Leaders debate.
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Posted by Charley Farley (U13513932) on Friday, 6th March 2015
Well done to the beeb for sticking to the plan of having 3 leaders debates despite Cameron's tricks.
Whoever is advising Cameron is doing massive damage.
He cannot have everything his own way and is coming over as a petulant boy.
Many will be put off voting Tory by this.
These debates attracted 22 million viewers last time so saying that going round knocking on doors (meeting maybe 50) is what he should be doing doesn't make any sense at all.
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Message 2
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Friday, 6th March 2015
'Leader's' debate? Does anyone seriously think these people 'lead' anything?
'Puppet's debate'. A pantomime performed by puppets. And taken seriously by legions of tv-stupified zombies who can't be bothered to take a look at what is going on all around them.
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Message 3
Posted by Johnnymol (U14690244) on Friday, 6th March 2015
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get away from the other party leaders
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Message 4
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Friday, 6th March 2015
Leaders shmeaders. They are groomed, trained in NLP, given elocution lessons, tested to see if they are loyal to the criminal ruling syndicate, and put into place as front men for the racket, I am your blue puppet, vote for me, I am your red puppet, vote for me, I am.. and so on. Ooh, I think I'll vote for that Miliband fellow because he's got a nice hairstyle. Oh, I'm voting for Cameron because he is promising me more money. Yes, I'm voting for EU slavery, massive country-crippling levels of immigration, rampant corruption, rampant sex abuse, rampant developers rampaging around destroying the towns and cities, and constant war in which millions of people around the world are dying for the benefit of the banks and other fraudsters, because they will give me more money. They say. What time's Strictly on?
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Message 5
Posted by Charley Farley (U13513932) on Friday, 6th March 2015
Agreed muskadash, the 'leaders' are quite pathetic but it's all we have.
There is one exception proving the rule and that is Nigel Farage who will answer the questions (unlike on PMQ's)
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Message 6
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Friday, 6th March 2015
And then when the 'leaders' betray them by not following through on their florid pre-election promises, which I think you will find happens every single time, the people exclaim and grumble, again and again, like a dog perpetually surprised by its own farts.
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Message 7
Posted by GZ (U5310554) ** on Friday, 6th March 2015
Leaders shmeaders. They are groomed, trained in NLP, given elocution lessons, tested to see if they are loyal to the criminal ruling syndicate, and put into place as front men for the racket, I am your blue puppet, vote for me, I am your red puppet, vote for me, I am.. and so on. Ooh, I think I'll vote for that Miliband fellow because he's got a nice hairstyle. Oh, I'm voting for Cameron because he is promising me more money. Yes, I'm voting for EU slavery, massive country-crippling levels of immigration, rampant corruption, rampant sex abuse, rampant developers rampaging around destroying the towns and cities, and constant war in which millions of people around the world are dying for the benefit of the banks and other fraudsters, because they will give me more money. They say. What time's Strictly on?
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Message 9
Posted by counterblast (U14258320) on Friday, 6th March 2015
Amid all this clamour over TV debates, we are forgetting one important fact. The last ones were so bloody awful that the nation briefly warmed to Nick Clegg.
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Message 10
Posted by counterblast (U14258320) on Friday, 6th March 2015
We shouldn't forget, thought, that the real reason Cameron doesn't want the debates to take place during the campaign is because they'll negate his massive war chest. All those billions spent on glossy leaflets and direct mails won't mean much to floating voters when his dismal record is ripped apart on live television.
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Message 11
Posted by beatxt (U14042175) on Friday, 6th March 2015
'Twas a witty remark made by the SNP Minister on Question Time last night when he suggested Cameron's empty seat in the debates should have placed on it (in the tradition of the Tub of Lard on HIGNFY) a bowl of Eton Mess.
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Message 12
Posted by The Man Who Watched Telly (U15436784) on Friday, 6th March 2015
They should put a big bowl of custard in place of the yellow bellied Cameron.
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Message 14
Posted by GZ (U5310554) ** on Friday, 6th March 2015
I must post this...it's a little off topic I know, but it shows how fake the 'leaders' are and how they try to manipulate us (and succeed). Obama's 'fainting routine'...someone 'faint's not far from the stage...Obama notices immediately and reassures the crowd, and calls for emergency medical attention...he directs the medics to the fallen person...it makes him look caring and concerned and paternal and sensitive to the travails of the common people...often he tosses them a bottle of water from his own supply, to cheers and applause....This is what they think of us, people...as sheep to be deceived and gulled.
.Ìý Is Obama participating in the debate?
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Message 15
Posted by Gill P (U15961217) on Friday, 6th March 2015
Many will be put off voting Tory by this.Ìý
Or on the other hand, many will be put off voting at all! Me for instance! -
Message 16
Posted by robbob (U16245176) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Will the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú (and others) PLEASE STOP continuously having this as a major news item.
It is shoving more important issues e.g Maggie Blyth report on grooming into obscurity - only covered for 1 day and then back to this debate nonsense.
It mat be important to broadcasters re: viewing figures, but for the rest of us, this will be trivial when we come to vote (as discussed ad-nausea by analysts/paper reviewers). -
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Message 18
Posted by peterb (U14277906) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Will the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú (and others) PLEASE STOP continuously having this as a major news item.
It is shoving more important issues e.g Maggie Blyth report on grooming into obscurity - only covered for 1 day and then back to this debate nonsense.
It mat be important to broadcasters re: viewing figures, but for the rest of us, this will be trivial when we come to vote (as discussed ad-nausea by analysts/paper reviewers).Ìý Totally agree,at the end of the day very few will be watching these debates so where is the point. -
Message 19
Posted by Pancho Wilkins (U1158194) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
They must debate together !
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Message 22
Posted by alan997 (U1233723) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Will the Â鶹¹ÙÍøÊ×Ò³Èë¿Ú (and others) PLEASE STOP continuously having this as a major news item.
It is shoving more important issues e.g Maggie Blyth report on grooming into obscurity - only covered for 1 day and then back to this debate nonsense.
It mat be important to broadcasters re: viewing figures, but for the rest of us, this will be trivial when we come to vote (as discussed ad-nausea by analysts/paper reviewers).Ìý Totally agree,at the end of the day very few will be watching these debates so where is the point.Ìý Nobody will, because 'the debates' - or even 'the debate' will not take place. Cameron has nothing to gain, and will find one pretext or another not to appear, and they - or it - can hardly take place without him. Or 'it'. -
Message 23
Posted by Phrasmotic 4 August 2012 (U5509534) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
I believe the debates are a waste of time, as in 2010 after "I agree with Nick", the big guns of each party came out to say how well their man did, and the Press followed suit (eg Daily Mail saying how effective Cameron was, Mirror talking about how well Brown got his points across). However, having opened Pandora's box in 2010, something Cameron was happy to happen then, the politicians shouldn't be allowed to dictate matters now. I frankly have a problem with No 10 commenting about what is party political, and not a government matter.
Despite my own cynicism, I don't blame the broadcasters for making a big deal about this, and I also think they're entitled to say "You play by our rules or not at all".
I'm surprised to see Cameron coming across as a coward here, as I think he's a pretty effective performer in the House of Commons. -
Message 24
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
People who vote for evil organisations are evil. Political parties and governments are evil organisations. Therefore people who vote for political parties and governments are evil.
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Message 27
Posted by Technicolour (U4590479) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
I live in one of the top safe seats in the country for a particular party. My vote counts for nothing. If for, it is a drop in the ocean, if against, it vanishes into nothingness.
What's the point in who says what or does what? What's the point in me voting?
TV debate a waste of time. Lets have a TV debate on lack of democracy. -
Message 28
Posted by GZ (U5310554) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Well you can tell its the weekend.
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Message 30
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
I didn't watch the last lot...and I have intention of watching any this time.
We have a parliamentary system. We do not need an American style presidential debate.
I will vote according to my reading of the policies , not according to a bunch of politicos wearing make up and standing under tv studio lights. -
Message 31
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
'I will vote according to my reading of the policies'
Yes, because they always stick to the pre-election manifesto once they get in, don't they. And they don't keep things hidden from the public, do they.
My god, when will people just use their brains. -
Message 32
Posted by germinator hebdo (U13411914) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Sinn Fein will probably manage to get by without a presence in the television debate.
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Message 33
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Didn't the 'coalition' pledge to 'reduce immigration to the tens of thousands' before this election? Well, that worked out really well, didn't it. And what happened to the 'EU referendum' that was promised? Oh dear. And yet, the herd will just ignore the fact that every single party just breaks its pre-election promises once they get in, and carries on voting for them anyway...lemming-like...Einstein said that insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results...many of the supporters of these 'parties' are self-proclaimed 'rationalists' who scorn at blind religious faith, but they themselves exhibit an equally irrational faith when they vote to support these gangs of fraudsters and warmongers...
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Message 34
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
'I will vote according to my reading of the policies'
Yes, because they always stick to the pre-election manifesto once they get in, don't they. And they don't keep things hidden from the public, do they.
My god, when will people just use their brains.Ìý
In the 11th century the misunderstood Kng Canut attempted to show his followers that he was fallible.
By an ironic twist his name is now associated with acts of ignoring the posibility of modifying the staus quo.
Every forum has its King Canuts;
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I nominate muskadash under his various names , as chief Canut. -
Message 35
Posted by The Man Who Watched Telly (U15436784) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Cameron has said on record umpteen times how important these debates are, for him to then arrogantly declare he wants no part shows him up to be a spoilt little brat who's had life handed to him on a plate.
Politicians work for us, we are their bosses, those that forget this should be shown the door. -
Message 36
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
'Politicians work for us, we are their bosses, those that forget this should be shown the door.'
Oh for goodness sake
Politicians do not 'work for us'. How many times do I have to say it? They work for the ruling financial and aristocratic oligarchs who run the big corporations. We are not 'their bosses'. Those who 'forget this' have been allowed to rob, cheat, rape, steal and pillage for decades unchecked, to the point where they have transferred the wealth of the nation to themselves and their chums.
The 'Establishment' is an organised crime syndicate run on money-laundering, fraud, theft, drug-trafficking etc.
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Message 37
Posted by The Man Who Watched Telly (U15436784) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Good point, very depressing but true.
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Message 38
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Message 39
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Tinfoil helmet time.
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Message 40
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Says the person who thinks that political parties abide by their manifestos once they get in.
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Message 41
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
I have said no such thing. Merely that I will decide my voting intention on processes that are nothing to do with presidential style debates.
Which is a mile away from giving credence to David Ickes- style Illuminati conspiracy crapola. -
Message 42
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
You said you will decide on the basis of reading their policies, as if the policies will be implemented once they get in.
People whose beliefs and values have been shown to be invalid always resort to remarks about Icke and lizards etc, because they have no other argument. -
Message 43
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Then why not ignore me ?
It is you that have nothing to offer accept conspiracy theory and hopelessness and armchair revolution.
It is you whose every post drips with depression and prolonged adolescent angst.
It is you whose posts are redolent of failure and who wants everyone else to wallow in your bitter saddo trough. -
Message 44
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
It is me who actually pays attention to the information coming out daily, darling. Even if you only read the mainstream papers, what I say is obvious to anyone with a brain. Of course to most people, what's happening around them is less pressing than television programmes, pop music, and trivia, because they are unable to process information meaningfully.
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Message 45
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Big clap to the bitter failure who can see what those of us with no brain can't see. clap clap.
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Message 46
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Well, if you regard curiosity about what is happening and a desire to search for information as 'failure', then I guess it says more about you...
Big clap to the supporters of liars and criminals who are dragging everyone else down because of their naievety and ignorance...clap clap. -
Message 47
Posted by Myshkin (U16115560) ** on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Good for you... the tireless armchair revolutionary. The Che Guevara of the POV message boards.
r.o.f.l. -
Message 48
Posted by muskadash (U16206734) on Saturday, 7th March 2015
Yes, and good for you, the apathetic blue-pill-popper who thinks that people who are outraged by the behaviour of the 'elites' have got something wrong with them.
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Message 49
Posted by Technicolour (U4590479) on Sunday, 8th March 2015
I live in one of the top safe seats in the country for a particular party. My vote counts for nothing. If for, it is a drop in the ocean, if against, it vanishes into nothingness.
What's the point in who says what or does what? What's the point in me voting?
TV debate a waste of time. Lets have a TV debate on lack of democracy. -
Message 50
Posted by mjr999 (U15498313) on Sunday, 8th March 2015
I didn't watch the last lot...and I have intention of watching any this time.
We have a parliamentary system. We do not need an American style presidential debate.
I will vote according to my reading of the policies , not according to a bunch of politicos wearing make up and standing under tv studio lights.Ìý I totally agree with you. These may work as presidential debates in the US but they do not suit our politics IMHO. The position of PM is NOT the same as that of the U.S. President.
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